Bollocks.We are, and will always be, a massive club regardless of what division we are in.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2017, 02:03:47 PMBollocks.We are, and will always be, a massive club regardless of what division we are in.Agree totally, we are a massive club but we need to start thinking massive. selecting Bruce was not the appointment of a massive club and we should do whatever it takes to get the right man in place
It's looking increasingly like that's the case, sadly.
Quote from: Allan C on February 19, 2017, 02:12:06 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2017, 02:03:47 PMBollocks.We are, and will always be, a massive club regardless of what division we are in.Agree totally, we are a massive club but we need to start thinking massive. selecting Bruce was not the appointment of a massive club and we should do whatever it takes to get the right man in placeWhat should have been the appointment of a massive club in the Championship?
Quote from: AGRIPPA on February 19, 2017, 12:11:49 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2017, 09:39:16 PMSadly i don't think we have 2 or 3 years unless you are happy for us allways to be in the lower leagues.Sadly we are where we deserve to be......Whatever people may think we are now no "bigger" a club than Southampton etc....Living on the past and what we were is futile.Realism should rule but sadly it doesn't....Agree, a 3rd season in this league will strip the last of the big club veneer away, with the wages we are carrying the outcome could be devastating.We have the rest of this season and the summer to prepare for that last hurrah, we can not afford to fail.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2017, 09:39:16 PMSadly i don't think we have 2 or 3 years unless you are happy for us allways to be in the lower leagues.Sadly we are where we deserve to be......Whatever people may think we are now no "bigger" a club than Southampton etc....Living on the past and what we were is futile.Realism should rule but sadly it doesn't....
Sadly i don't think we have 2 or 3 years unless you are happy for us allways to be in the lower leagues.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2017, 02:18:35 PMIt's looking increasingly like that's the case, sadly.Agree again, Bruce was an uninspiring choice IMO. We should have pushed the boat out to get a manager to take us to the top again where we should be. Hopefully that's what we are doing.
Quote from: Allan C on February 19, 2017, 02:27:02 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2017, 02:18:35 PMIt's looking increasingly like that's the case, sadly.Agree again, Bruce was an uninspiring choice IMO. We should have pushed the boat out to get a manager to take us to the top again where we should be. Hopefully that's what we are doing.We need to earn the right to act and be treated like a "massive club". You cannot jump straight from 5 years of neglect into contenders just by talking the talk. To my mind the rest of the season is about getting us to a point whereby we can be ready to go from day 1 next season. We now have a a decent set of players an a manager with a track record of achieving what we want to achieve in the sort term, I think changing him now and the uncertainty that brings should be resisted unless absolutely necessary.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on February 19, 2017, 01:42:04 PMQuote from: AGRIPPA on February 19, 2017, 12:11:49 AMQuote from: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2017, 09:39:16 PMSadly i don't think we have 2 or 3 years unless you are happy for us allways to be in the lower leagues.Sadly we are where we deserve to be......Whatever people may think we are now no "bigger" a club than Southampton etc....Living on the past and what we were is futile.Realism should rule but sadly it doesn't....Agree, a 3rd season in this league will strip the last of the big club veneer away, with the wages we are carrying the outcome could be devastating.We have the rest of this season and the summer to prepare for that last hurrah, we can not afford to fail.Southampton came back from the dead to be a solid PL club. Leicester became champions having been on the verge of relegation. Nothing is written in stone and we have a far better structure in place than a number of clubs that went down and never returned. That's not a reason to be complacent or take it for granted we will come back but what we have established behind the scenes will aid our recovery. This season has been a huge disappointment but maybe it's a bit like trying to fix your swing in the middle of a round of golf. It often gets worse. We might need to get to the end of the season, keep Bruce and have him really decide on who and what he wants us to be to get out next season.
I think we need a manager to change the whole ethos of the club, a new Graham Taylor. Bruce doesn't seem likely to be that man.Not sure who it should be. Eddie Howe, Brendan Rodgers or (the dream appointment) Marcelo Bielsa would be my choices.