Aston Villa v Ipswich Town Post-Match Thread

[cdbearsfan]

Come friendly bombs and land on Brum.
It isn't fit for football now.

[QuintonVilla]

Lose on Tuesday and we're in a relegation battle. Embarrassing.

We don't score goals & we never win away. Not a recipe for success. We're in trouble.

[saunders_heroes]

Said the other day we need to stick with him but he is very close to making it impossible. We absolutely have to get a result midweek as I think we will get crucified at Newcastle. By the time that is over there could be enough dissent to force the doctors hand. This formation is dog shit

It's the sort of thing you'd try out in pre-season, not half way through one. I'm a fan of 5 at the back but only if you play with 2 wingbacks.

[KevinGage]

This carries on until early March and I don't see how anyone can make an argument for continuity for continuity's sake.

The issue is now that once a fair few of the support base come to the conclusion that the manager isn't up to it, even if he somehow pulls out a few results it feels more like buying time and merely delaying the inevitable. As opposed to positive forward progression.  Once the seed is planted etc.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

The whole club is a mess which he walked into. I think we were all a little bit deluded into thinking we'd bounce back from 6 years of sabotage overnight (me included).

Again, there's nothing wrong with the club. We have everything in place, superb facilities, good people, strong investment, the problem is the team.

We were run like a pantomime for 6 years and the new chairman is trying to sort things out. It's gone take time, but yeah, the club is a mess whether you like it or not.

Yes, I know you didn't like Lerner but what is the mess with the club right now other than the team?

[passport1]

The whole club is a mess which he walked into. I think we were all a little bit deluded into thinking we'd bounce back from 6 years of sabotage overnight (me included).

Again, there's nothing wrong with the club. We have everything in place, superb facilities, good people, strong investment, the problem is the team.

We were run like a pantomime for 6 years and the new chairman is trying to sort things out. It's gone take time, but yeah, the club is a mess whether you like it or not.

We've had too many managers who have been unable to manage at the club for things to be hunky dory and all down to them. As with Randy when he bowled up a lot of blind faith from supporters until the penny finally dropped.

[Boz]

The whole club is a mess which he walked into. I think we were all a little bit deluded into thinking we'd bounce back from 6 years of sabotage overnight (me included).

Again, there's nothing wrong with the club. We have everything in place, superb facilities, good people, strong investment, the problem is the team.

We were run like a pantomime for 6 years and the new chairman is trying to sort things out. It's gone take time, but yeah, the club is a mess whether you like it or not.

It's not the club really now, with the new owner. He just chose the wrong type of manager

[Billy Walker]

Give Bruce the summer, let him sort out the defence, goalkeeper etc. and we'll be fighting for promotion.  Surely it's got to be time for patience and looking at the bigger picture?  Hiring and firing, rebuild after rebuild, that's the kind of instability that destroys clubs.

[saunders_heroes]

The whole club is a mess which he walked into. I think we were all a little bit deluded into thinking we'd bounce back from 6 years of sabotage overnight (me included).

Again, there's nothing wrong with the club. We have everything in place, superb facilities, good people, strong investment, the problem is the team.

We were run like a pantomime for 6 years and the new chairman is trying to sort things out. It's gone take time, but yeah, the club is a mess whether you like it or not.

Yes, I know you didn't like Lerner but what is the mess with the club right now other than the team?

Erm, the mess he left the club in perhaps? Or do you think it's all been sorted now then?

[saunders_heroes]

Give Bruce the summer, let him sort out the defence, goalkeeper etc. and we'll be fighting for promotion.  Surely it's got to be time for patience and looking at the bigger picture?  Hiring and firing, rebuild after rebuild, that's the kind of instability that destroys clubs.

Yeah I agree with this.

[PeterWithesShin]

We have a new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, and nearly a completely new team. The last 5 years of shite has little, if anything, to do with how crap we currently are.

[saunders_heroes]

We have a new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, and nearly a completely new team. The last 5 years of shite has little, if anything, to do with how crap we currently are.

Horse shit. You don't turn around 6 years of sabotage overnight. The club is still a mess and it'll take time to turn it around.

[ktvillan]

After the initial bounce Bruce's results are now as bad as RDM's, and getting worse, and the football is less attacking and less attractive.  I'd agree we could do with a period of stability and some patience, but for that to happen you'd expect at the very least for the manager to demonstrate he can motivate and organise a bunch of relatively expensive players, and can identify which ones are a total liability/waste of space.  Bruce isn't exactly inspiring loyalty in that respect.  Huddersfield and Reading manage to unearth decent coaches, we seem to persistently attract duds and dinosaurs, or manage to turn them into that.

[curiousorange]

I really want to do the sensible thing and back Bruce. But the football, and the bollock-kicking losses we seem to have made our new favourite habit, are making it very difficult not to look enviously at those teams who seem to waltz to victory with nowhere near the talent we have spent millions on.

[Nev]

Those 3 new midfielders don't work together in those positions, Elphick is a disaster, the system is too defensive.

Change those 3 things for a start.