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Offline Damo70

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #225 on: July 10, 2017, 07:08:18 PM »
Johnstone, Bunn, Steer in that order for me.

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #226 on: July 10, 2017, 09:41:12 PM »
So how long are we going to wait to decide if Jed Steer is good enough? We need to give him a chance in the first team  or let him go. He is almost 25 and has been with us for 4 years so that's long enough to establish if he is going to make it.

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #227 on: July 10, 2017, 09:51:45 PM »


Yep , I don't know too much about Sarkic's character but he doesn't strike me as a Bossie, saving a penalty in front of the great unwashed at the the Railway End just after coming on then turning round to the Sty Dwellers arms aloft giving it the big un, but Bunn would just be picking the ball out the net . He's not at Stuart Taylor's level of reserve appearances yet - he can't even get that bit right. Too small and definitely good enough !
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 09:53:34 PM by brentastonb6 »

Offline paul_e

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #228 on: July 10, 2017, 10:10:52 PM »
We don't have a reserve side any more though which is the problem. You could potentially share-out U23 games between them, but then you're also restricting the game-time of the actual U23 keepers.  And again, playing in goal in games at Bodymoor, etc is completely different to having to deal with a Championship crowd. You're s sitting target for opposition supporters and it takes a completely different mindset to cope, than that of an outfield player.  Can anyone honestly tell me that they'd throw Sarkic into a Blues game (home or away) ahead of Bunn next season?

Yep , I don't know too much about Sarkic's character but he doesn't strike me as a Bossie, saving a penalty in front of the great unwashed at the the Railway End just after coming on then turning round to the Sty Dwellers arms aloft giving it the big un, but Bunn would just be picking the ball out the net . He's not at Stuart Taylor's level of reserve appearances yet - he can't even get that bit right. Too small and definitely good enough !

U23s is just a renaming of the reserves, look at who played in our games last season, the age restrictions are pretty relaxed.

Sarkic is one of the keepers in the U23 squad so he's not taking game time from anyone, he's only 19 remember.

The bit about the Blues game is misrepresenting the argument, he'd be the 3rd choice if we sell Bunn and if we keep Bunn and loan out Steer he'd still be the 3rd choice. The argument there is whether we keep Steer and Bunn sitting in the stands so that there's absolutely no chance of Sarkic being needed.  My view is that when you have a first team squad that is far too big and are trying to make savings towards FFP you just can't carry 3 first team goalkeepers.  Sarkic is fine as 3rd choice who will probably not play (unless we have an injury crisis) so the choice is between Steer or Bunn and the other one should be moved on.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #229 on: July 10, 2017, 10:55:49 PM »
Steer played a decent season at Huddersfield and pretty sure he's actually played more games at this level than Mark Bunn has, bemusing that RDM and SB have had him below Bunn in the pecking order.

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #230 on: July 11, 2017, 12:15:44 AM »
Steer had a bad injury though.  Maybe he will be 2 and Bunn 3 if he proves his fitness this season. Certainly did ok at Huddersfield. Bunn is rubbish. Hopefully Johnstone can kick on and become a real asset. A bit like Foster has for Albion or Heaton at Burnley.

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #231 on: July 11, 2017, 07:39:34 AM »
Steer and Bunn are not good enough to be first team. I'd keep Steer as a second choice (or loan him out with an option to recall him).


Offline sid1964

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #232 on: July 11, 2017, 07:55:16 AM »
it does surprise me that we seem to be after players with experience and yet the goal keeper -  will be one of our younger regulars! - i would have thought that we would have had a more experienced keeper for next season.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #233 on: July 11, 2017, 09:35:41 AM »
I do tend to agree though Johnstone improved

I'm sure there are youngsters at the likes of Chelsea or Man City who would walk into our midfield for example

Offline in exile

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #234 on: July 11, 2017, 10:43:39 AM »
Steer and Bunn are not good enough to be first team. I'd keep Steer as a second choice (or loan him out with an option to recall him).

You would keep Steer as second choice even though he's not good enough to be in the first team?
What's the point?

Offline paul_e

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #235 on: July 11, 2017, 10:53:36 AM »
Steer and Bunn are not good enough to be first team. I'd keep Steer as a second choice (or loan him out with an option to recall him).

You would keep Steer as second choice even though he's not good enough to be in the first team?
What's the point?

Because he's better than Bunn?  It's a fairly low bar to be honest.

Offline peter w

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #236 on: July 11, 2017, 11:02:52 AM »
I like Sarkic. Only seen him twice and once Live and both times I was mightily impressed. There again, my ability to call players on their potential has been more miss than hit.

Offline in exile

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #237 on: July 11, 2017, 12:33:51 PM »
Steer and Bunn are not good enough to be first team. I'd keep Steer as a second choice (or loan him out with an option to recall him).

You would keep Steer as second choice even though he's not good enough to be in the first team?
What's the point?

Because he's better than Bunn?  It's a fairly low bar to be honest.

But still not good enough for 1st team duties

Malandro

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #238 on: July 11, 2017, 12:38:56 PM »
There again, my ability to call players on their potential has been more miss than hit.

Your talent is smelling a rat at ownership level, far more important.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Sam Johnstone - re-signing
« Reply #239 on: July 11, 2017, 01:09:58 PM »


Have we actually confirmed this deal yet or have i missed it ?

 


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