Villa v Leeds Post-Match thread

[ciggiesnbeer]

I have no problem with Kodjia's "I am going to score" mentality every time he gets the ball. He only ever thinks of one thing, thats fine by me in a striker with his power.

And the reason why we have 1 point instead of 3.

Possibly. However if we are arguing that then its equally true we would have had 1 point instead of 3 at QPR if he was a less goal focused player.

[olaftab]

We didn't steal it we deserved it and with a bit of luck would have won it. Leeds are OK and have been on a great run but should have gone back with nothing.

[andyh]

We didn't steal it we deserved it and with a bit of luck would have won it. Leeds are OK and have been on a great run but should have gone back with nothing.

I think we had more than our fair share of luck Aftab,  with them hitting the bar when it was easier to score....twice.

[adrenachrome]

My take was that we were better in the first half and could have been a couple up in the first 15 minutes or so, but they were the better side in the second half.

[BC54 VFC]

I don't want to see Ayew again, he is a luxury player we can't afford and I hope we sell him.  Other players were below par tonight too including Jedinak and Amarvi who had a shocker I thought.  Bruce needed to change things earlier than he did, but made the right calls I thought. 

Special mention to Jansson, who is the most annoying opposition player I can remember for a good long while.  Took Grealish out and the ref didn't even give a free kick - that happens in the premier league and it's at least a booking. 

...the irony being that Roger East is a Premier League referee.

[Villatillidie1982]

Given that Villa have no brains in midfield (where is Tshibola?), they need strength so Adomah should start otherwise there is no link to the strikers and too much long ball results. The other main problem is the lack of a decent goalkeeper. This needs to be addressed in January.

But despite the pressure the team kept fighting and won a point that they wouldn't have won in the last few seasons.

Nice to see a referee who acts on a linesman's flag other than for offsides.

[the-farmer]

Rob Green made several brilliant saves, kept them in it.

[Zouch Villa]

Our midfield looks so limited for options, especially once Grealish went off. Jedinak looked poor at time, winning a few headers but his distribution is dreadful, and Westwood is, well Westwood.

This has to be the focus in the transfer window for me. We put pressure on ourselves as we allow teams to push their way through, and we don't have the drive to create overlapping runs with our front line.

And I thought McCormack looked well off the pace tonight, at times seemingly unsure of his position. I know there's a good player there somewhere, but we've only seen it in very brief flashes so far.

[OzVilla]

Draw was a fair result as both teams could, and should, have won it at the end. We were very disjointed though 2nd half, we absolutely must get a midfielder with brains to calm us own and be that link between the midfield and our forward line, I wonder how Gill would've gone in this division? He looked a class above when we played lower leagues in cup games.

If we need to sell to buy I'd be cashing in on Gestede, Ayew and Amavi if we could get in £45 million and re-invest.  Saying that Rudy and Adomah saved us a point tonight so kudos to them and Bruce, his subs got us that point.

[Gareth]

Draw was def the correct result IMHO, Leeds are the most compact & organised side I've seen us play this season so not a disgrace.  We were better first half they were second, good to get that equaliser.

Jedinak looked tired 2nd half, we really have to get him some quality assistance in the centre of the pitch else he will be burnt out in no time.  Actually thought Westwood did ok tonight with pressing the opposition but we do need a significant upgrade on him to get a solid base in there.

Hutton yet again got forward well without actually doing anything once he got there...as for Amavi that's successive performances that say 'not getting hurt' - 25m is fantasy land, if someone came in with 10m I'd break their arms to accept.

Chester superb again, looks like Baker was iffy for the goal but he isn't that Ricket a game merchant he was before.

If Gollini had conceded such a soft finish he would have been getting pelters - def need a proper goalkeeper because Bunn is nowhere near the answer.

Ayew-hope Ghana win the ACON so he is gone for a month, just don't get the fuss over him, doesn't contribute anything like enough for his supposed talent.

Disgustingly incompetent refereeing to be looking right at Gestede & the defender jumping for the ball & not seeing the handball...thankfully lino actually broke the unwritten rule & got involved in the game.

Don't know what others experiences have been but the bigger crowds of the last week have brought out a few morons, foul mouthed negative arses behind me, absolutely no appreciation that there is actually an opposition on the pitch trying to play & win the game....just slaughtering our players for anything & everything eff this, eff that, effing c's & all sorts

[Colhint]

we only played with 10 men westwood and hutton are half each

This may be your general opinion, but has no context to this game as they both did ok.  What's the point of commenting on a match thread if all your going to do is trot out the same old pre-conceived opinions that bear no resemblance to what happened on the field.

Its not preconceived it's when people think that he did ok, that's the best he's ever going to be for us. So he did ok in a game, I cant remember  him playing good. I certainly can't think either have won a man of the match for us. That must rub off one the other players not having confidence in their team mates to go on runs which would leave them exposed

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We didn't steal it we deserved it and with a bit of luck would have won it.

I'm beginning to love Steve Bruce. His football may be ugly but have we ever had such a lucky manager? Long may it continue.

I haven't heard his post-match but if the way he got us out the traps in the first 4 minutes, he may not need to be so lucky. Disappointing game but for the first time since Brighton, a tiny glimmer of hope other than a team prepared to work hard.

I wonder if giving the captaincy to Jedi would improve us. Chester is amazing but I'd look to see out bearded monster screaming and shouting. I just get the feeling he's a little constrained not being allowed to bite off heads.

[BC54 VFC]

Four weirdos in seats H158-161 of the Lower Doug Ellis. A chap not much younger than me sat in seat H160 for the first-half. I've never seen someone so drunk at a football match; early in the game he tried to stand up and fell on top of a guy in seat G159 who promptly turned around and threatened to smash his teeth in (he didn't but I don't blame him for the threat). The four returned late for the second-half and sat in different seats. The drunkard had smuggled in a bottle of Heineken which the youngest of the four took off him, and the other three shared swigs for the remainder of the half. The youngest, who I suspect had also had a few drinks, decided to shout at Robert Green for the last half hour, telling him what a crap keeper he was; I really think he thought Green could hear him. I hope they're not there for the next match.     

[adrenachrome]

Draw was def the correct result IMHO, Leeds are the most compact & organised side I've seen us play this season so not a disgrace.  We were better first half they were second, good to get that equaliser.

Jedinak looked tired 2nd half, we really have to get him some quality assistance in the centre of the pitch else he will be burnt out in no time.  Actually thought Westwood did ok tonight with pressing the opposition but we do need a significant upgrade on him to get a solid base in there.

Hutton yet again got forward well without actually doing anything once he got there...as for Amavi that's successive performances that say 'not getting hurt' - 25m is fantasy land, if someone came in with 10m I'd break their arms to accept.

Chester superb again, looks like Baker was iffy for the goal but he isn't that Ricket a game merchant he was before.

If Gollini had conceded such a soft finish he would have been getting pelters - def need a proper goalkeeper because Bunn is nowhere near the answer.

Ayew-hope Ghana win the ACON so he is gone for a month, just don't get the fuss over him, doesn't contribute anything like enough for his supposed talent.

Disgustingly incompetent refereeing to be looking right at Gestede & the defender jumping for the ball & not seeing the handball...thankfully lino actually broke the unwritten rule & got involved in the game.

Don't know what others experiences have been but the bigger crowds of the last week have brought out a few morons, foul mouthed negative arses behind me, absolutely no appreciation that there is actually an opposition on the pitch trying to play & win the game....just slaughtering our players for anything & everything eff this, eff that, effing c's & all sorts

Re your last paragraph, Gareth, I agree.

Uberfan John who left this forum to start TBAR always maintained that the home support was better these days when it was reduced to the hard core, and he was probably right.

[KevinGage]

Jedinak would have little moral authority as captain bollocking people for mistakes with his consistently woeful distribution.

Do as I say, not as I do.

I like Chester. Probably won't be anywhere near the top 10 Villa centre halves by the time his stint with us is over. But keeps it simple and uncomplicated and doesn't look like he'll sink us with a moment of pure idiocy.

That might not sound a lot, but compared to some of the flakes we have had in that position in recent seasons, he's an absolute prince.