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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2955 on: February 13, 2017, 12:25:11 PM »
Sky just put up a graphic showing the four leagues form table. We are 91st with only Leicester below us in 92nd. I hadn't realized is was quite that bad!
Well one draw and 5 defeats in last 6 so you should have known.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2956 on: February 13, 2017, 12:29:38 PM »
Strange how 3-5-2 has been condemned as some sort of spawn of Satan formation, as though of itself it condemns a manager. Stranger still when you note that Chelsea, 10 points clear at the top of the PL, have been using it for the majority of the season. Now obviously they have much, much better players but that isn't the point when it is the fact of the formation not the players that is being ridiculed.

Chelsea haven't played 3-5-2 at any point this season. They're playing 3-4-3, with two wingers either side of Costa, or occasionally Hazard.
And that's where it went wrong on Saturday specially after subs. Adomah and Green came on  and we should have had a perfect 343 but they both had no idea what they were doing and Adomah went missing big time for their goal.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2957 on: February 13, 2017, 12:44:36 PM »
I agree olaftab, but according to a lot on here it was all Elphicks fault

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2958 on: February 13, 2017, 12:56:27 PM »
I agree olaftab, but according to a lot on here it was all Elphicks fault

By my reckoning there were at least 4 of our players that could and should have done better to stop that goal: Elphick slipped allowing the man to get past, Chester when tracking back should have stopped the cross coming in, Baker should have intercepted the cross after that, and Hourihane should have been closer to Huws to stop him getting the shot off.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2959 on: February 13, 2017, 12:59:29 PM »
Yes Chelsea play 3-5-2/5-3-2 but they spent pre season drilling the players as to what it entails. We threw it together in a panicky few days. After our usual money up the wall trick.

The answer to this problem is all on the training field. We won't solve this

That's not right actually, they changed a few games into the season because of a couple of losses. It worked for them, it hasn't for us.



Chris that is correct, Chelsea didn't start the season in a 3/5/2 or 5/3/2 at all. Due to injuries and suspensions they had to change it and got results so they stuck with it.

But Conte had history with Juventus with that system and Italian national side

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2960 on: February 13, 2017, 01:12:11 PM »
Conte said he changed the system when they were 3-0 down at half time at Arsenal and said none of the players had tried it previously.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2961 on: February 13, 2017, 01:14:41 PM »
Adomah is the only winger I have ever seen that doesn't try and beat a man.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2962 on: February 13, 2017, 01:39:11 PM »
Adomah is the only winger I have ever seen that doesn't try and beat a man.

you haven't been watching the same games as me then, I have seen him try to beat his man plenty of times, including on Saturday. Not much end result though unfortunately

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2963 on: February 13, 2017, 02:05:44 PM »
Bruce needs to get his shit together and quickly.

As others have said, why play 5 at the back and then use our most defensive fullbacks?
Why sign new creative (hopefully) midfielders then ask the defenders to hoof long balls and bypass midfield all together?
Why replace an inexperienced keeper with another young inexperienced one?
Why do you make subs either too late or too randomly, either having no impact or causing the team to lose shape?

I do think that he deserves time but there has to be some shred of positivity to hang some hope on surely.  Get a grip Steve and grow a pair of bollocks.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2964 on: February 13, 2017, 02:08:39 PM »
Adomah is the only winger I have ever seen that doesn't try and beat a man.

you haven't been watching the same games as me then, I have seen him try to beat his man plenty of times, including on Saturday. Not much end result though unfortunately

The trouble with Adomah is that he can beat one man but then gets carried away and thinks he can beat the entire team, then invariably loses the ball. I'm not a fan.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2965 on: February 13, 2017, 02:19:32 PM »
I have seen him play quite a bit this season and he's nowhere near as bad as some say.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2966 on: February 13, 2017, 02:23:07 PM »
I think we always look more dynamic with him on the pitch

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2967 on: February 13, 2017, 02:31:44 PM »
Doesn't really prove anything but, possibly, interesting.

Our league record when Albert starts W6 D6 L5, when he doesn't W2 D6 L5.

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2968 on: February 13, 2017, 02:54:12 PM »
Adomah has 3 goals and 5 assists this season, isn't he comfortably our most productive midfielder?
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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Steve Bruce - officially confirmed
« Reply #2969 on: February 13, 2017, 03:09:58 PM »
I like him. I'm going to bring my night vision glasses tomorrow and thoroughly sweep the stadium for glimpses of Gary or Mark

 


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