Steve Bruce - officially confirmed (as Sheffield Wednesday boss)

[BOB MANSFIELD]

If we were in the business of replacing Steve, which I have no interest in whatsoever I might add, my pick would be Dean Jones.
That's without the fact he's one of us, the occasions I've witnessed his modestly assembled team they've played with skill and conviction, and appear to be very well organised.

Once Hogan has " adjusted " ( another word for gelled ) he will take over the striker role for sure. His play off the ball was great for making space into which Kodjia could go. He did all he could to be deferential - but now he has realised that Kodjia isn't that sort of team player, he will make the striker role his own IMO.
Steve Bruce…..
I think some contributors have missed a few things here…….
SB inherited a barrow load of problem child-type non-players that he couldn’t get rid of, so was forced to try to work with.
He walked into a situation where two of our best players were out for weeks in Africa and had no reasonable reserves (kids mostly)
He got badly let down by McCormack who is having whatever problems, but can’t be bothered to turn up for training
He had to wait for the January window  - I am sure he was pleased with the acquisitions – and then try to make it all work within 3 days.
His new left back has a broken face and is not match-ready.
His “ established “ left back has had a succession of mares and ( perhaps ) he thought should be rested.
His new left wing back – Thor – played himself into the role by the second half and was quite good first time around.
His returning African CF had claimed the prize for greedy B of the week and his new partner Hogan was too willing to give him “ seniority “ ( one time offer only, I think )
His glamour star Grealish was booked for something he should know better and then sent off for a half-hearted tackle, when he was clearly not taking part any longer.
Most of this side haven’t played together for more than one game …..and after all that, we think the Manager should be sacked.
Come on!

[Ian.]

We've had two games so far with a huge turnover of playing staff with very little preparation with these players. Why don't we just let Bruce have time with this squad and work on getting a system and team plan together to conquer the league next season. I can't believe we're even talking about replacement if I'm Perfectly honest.

[BOB MANSFIELD]

I'm with you, mate. Stability and patience is what we need. Unfortunately the dream immediate return is probably out of reach. Let's support what we've got, till we can't any longer. Next Christmas - minimum - for me.

[West Derby Villan]

If we were in the business of replacing Steve, which I have no interest in whatsoever I might add, my pick would be Dean Jones.
That's without the fact he's one of us, the occasions I've witnessed his modestly assembled team they've played with skill and conviction, and appear to be very well organised.

Once Hogan has " adjusted " ( another word for gelled ) he will take over the striker role for sure. His play off the ball was great for making space into which Kodjia could go. He did all he could to be deferential - but now he has realised that Kodjia isn't that sort of team player, he will make the striker role his own IMO.
Steve Bruce…..
I think some contributors have missed a few things here…….
SB inherited a barrow load of problem child-type non-players that he couldn’t get rid of, so was forced to try to work with.
He walked into a situation where two of our best players were out for weeks in Africa and had no reasonable reserves (kids mostly)
He got badly let down by McCormack who is having whatever problems, but can’t be bothered to turn up for training
He had to wait for the January window  - I am sure he was pleased with the acquisitions – and then try to make it all work within 3 days.
His new left back has a broken face and is not match-ready.
His “ established “ left back has had a succession of mares and ( perhaps ) he thought should be rested.
His new left wing back – Thor – played himself into the role by the second half and was quite good first time around.
His returning African CF had claimed the prize for greedy B of the week and his new partner Hogan was too willing to give him “ seniority “ ( one time offer only, I think )
His glamour star Grealish was booked for something he should know better and then sent off for a half-hearted tackle, when he was clearly not taking part any longer.
Most of this side haven’t played together for more than one game …..and after all that, we think the Manager should be sacked.
Come on!

Totally agree Bob, patience is what is required, not "sack Bruce"

[ChicagoLion]

There is hardly any one advocating him getting the sack, I do not see however why on a fans forum we are not supposed to discuss this managers, results, performances and decisions.

[Dave]

There is hardly any one advocating him getting the sack, I do not see however why on a fans forum we are not supposed to discuss this managers, results, performances and decisions.

Quite. A few have said that if the next three and a half months are anything like the last two then he won't really have shown enough to warrant being given next season.

Which isn't a particularly controversial position to take.

[LeeB]

If we were in the business of replacing Steve, which I have no interest in whatsoever I might add, my pick would be Dean Jones.
That's without the fact he's one of us, the occasions I've witnessed his modestly assembled team they've played with skill and conviction, and appear to be very well organised.

He got Herbie going well but has been dead a while so it's a no from me.

Where in the name of God did I get Jones from?!?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'm with you, mate. Stability and patience is what we need. Unfortunately the dream immediate return is probably out of reach. Let's support what we've got, till we can't any longer. Next Christmas - minimum - for me.

Why wait two months into the new season or Christmas to replace a manager? Indifferent to who the manager is, the summer should be the time to review and replace if necessary. The choice is far greater, he is allowed to work with the squad preseason, we won't hear about "oh wait until he has his own players", unfit players will be his responsibility, he has the greater selection in the transfer market and more time to prepare for the new season.

[LeeB]

Again, I'm confident he'll get us sorted but if we started poorly next season, it's tatty-bye.

[paul_e]

I'm with you, mate. Stability and patience is what we need. Unfortunately the dream immediate return is probably out of reach. Let's support what we've got, till we can't any longer. Next Christmas - minimum - for me.

Why wait two months into the new season or Christmas to replace a manager? Indifferent to who the manager is, the summer should be the time to review and replace if necessary. The choice is far greater, he is allowed to work with the squad preseason, we won't hear about "oh wait until he has his own players", unfit players will be his responsibility, he has the greater selection in the transfer market and more time to prepare for the new season.

Exactly, this is why the next 2-3 months is so important for him and is the point I've been trying to make all along when people are saying he needs at least a year and that we should give him the summer and then see how he starts the season.  I want that but he needs to earn that right and pointing at 4 promotions elsewhere means fuck all if we don't see a big improvement now that he has his own players and has been here long enough for his training methods to be well established.  He's got rid of 'problem' players and should have a coaching team that is entirely his.  From here he has no excuses (I don't particularly like the current one about his new players need to settle/gel, that's a cop out for me) and the results need to come.

[Clampy]

Like I've said a few times, providing we don't nosedive down the league or he doesn't lose the dressing room, he's my choice to take us into next season.

[Clampy]

There is hardly any one advocating him getting the sack, I do not see however why on a fans forum we are not supposed to discuss this managers, results, performances and decisions.

Quite. A few have said that if the next three and a half months are anything like the last two then he won't really have shown enough to warrant being given next season.

Which isn't a particularly controversial position to take.

It's a valid enough point, even if some on here make the same point over and over again day after day.

[old man villa fan]

Like I've said a few times, providing we don't nosedive down the league or he doesn't lose the dressing room, he's my choice to take us into next season.

I'm afraid I will need to see quite a bit more than that.  I want to see consistency and a spark that gives me confidence that will see us on the right track for next season.  Next season starts with what remains of this one.  Bruce will still need to add one or two players (and clear out a few) in the Summer but this squad should be good enough if coached and managed properly.

[Dave]

There is hardly any one advocating him getting the sack, I do not see however why on a fans forum we are not supposed to discuss this managers, results, performances and decisions.

Quite. A few have said that if the next three and a half months are anything like the last two then he won't really have shown enough to warrant being given next season.

Which isn't a particularly controversial position to take.

It's a valid enough point, even if some on here make the same point over and over again day after day.

It's a bit ironic that your post directly above this one starts "Like I've said a few times..."

[Ian.]

There is hardly any one advocating him getting the sack, I do not see however why on a fans forum we are not supposed to discuss this managers, results, performances and decisions.

Quite. A few have said that if the next three and a half months are anything like the last two then he won't really have shown enough to warrant being given next season.

Which isn't a particularly controversial position to take.

It's a valid enough point, even if some on here make the same point over and over again day after day.

Yep, I agree with that. Maybe like you say as some people just repeat the same point over and over again it makes it seem there is more than there actually is who want him out, where really it's only a few. Especially when I only skim through the thread in the morning and night.