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Offline brian green

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #435 on: October 02, 2016, 06:05:00 PM »
I mean a hit on the perceived value of the club he now owns.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #436 on: October 02, 2016, 06:14:38 PM »
I like what Wagner is doing at Huddersfield but it's a bit of a risk, I don't think he's done 50 league games as a first team manager yet.

Wagner plays an incredible high tempo game...you could see how fit Huddersfield were in second half at VP.

They do double training sessions....were camping in forests for pre season and they also train at night 24 hours before a midweek game.

I wonder how that would go down with our squad...most of them can't be bothered to close down an opposition player as we saw yesterday.

Romantic idea but not sure it would work mid season.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #437 on: October 02, 2016, 06:16:24 PM »
He wouldn't be the first manager to start using double sessions mid-season.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #438 on: October 02, 2016, 06:17:10 PM »
I agree that's probably the big risk. It might take him till next season to get his ideas across.

I'd wait though. If it meant having a real identity. And he did have a good immediate impact last season I think?

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #439 on: October 02, 2016, 06:19:09 PM »
I like what Wagner is doing at Huddersfield but it's a bit of a risk, I don't think he's done 50 league games as a first team manager yet.

Wagner plays an incredible high tempo game...you could see how fit Huddersfield were in second half at VP.

They do double training sessions....were camping in forests for pre season and they also train at night 24 hours before a midweek game.

I wonder how that would go down with our squad...most of them can't be bothered to close down an opposition player as we saw yesterday.

Romantic idea but not sure it would work mid season.

I don't know anything about him but you've just sold him to me there

Offline auntiesledd

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #440 on: October 02, 2016, 06:20:26 PM »
I moustache you to stop saying silly things like that auntie.

Honestly Brian, I was being serious! Had I wanted to be silly, I'd have suggested bringing in Julian Dicks to service those cheeky teutonic Mssrs Kuntz & Minge.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #441 on: October 02, 2016, 06:21:36 PM »
can any one tell me what style of play Steve Bruce plays
He's been a manager for years and I still can't tell


Generally a less refined version of MON boofball.

Well organised (ish) at the back (only so much you can do with Curtis Davies), don't create a whole pile. A threat from set pieces.

He actually tried to go a bit more expansive in the third year at Hull and that probably relegated them.

Year Hull came up they actually played 3-5-2 and were pretty decent at it so he's more tactically flexible than RDM.

Big problem for me with Bruce if you look at his record is he does decent jobs at clubs when he doesn't have much money (SHA, Palace, Wigan and Hull 1st season) yet when he's given money to spend he wastes it on mediocre and past it british players.,,,we've heard that one before haven't we?

SHA he signed likes of Heskey and Pennant and the team spirit broke down...at Sunderland he spent 11m on Connor Wickham and was sacked 2 months later.

And at Hull he signed Dawson, Huddlestone etc. I dread Dr Tony giving him 50m.

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #442 on: October 02, 2016, 06:23:17 PM »


I think we have to acknowledge that we're not an attractive proposition at the moment, and the likes of Wagner would be perhaps a little mad to even consider coming to us.

Money talks of course, but even then would we really want someone who's only coming for the loot ?

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #443 on: October 02, 2016, 06:28:10 PM »
can any one tell me what style of play Steve Bruce plays
He's been a manager for years and I still can't tell


Generally a less refined version of MON boofball.

Well organised (ish) at the back (only so much you can do with Curtis Davies), don't create a whole pile. A threat from set pieces.

He actually tried to go a bit more expansive in the third year at Hull and that probably relegated them.

Year Hull came up they actually played 3-5-2 and were pretty decent at it so he's more tactically flexible than RDM.

Big problem for me with Bruce if you look at his record is he does decent jobs at clubs when he doesn't have much money (SHA, Palace, Wigan and Hull 1st season) yet when he's given money to spend he wastes it on mediocre and past it british players.,,,we've heard that one before haven't we?

SHA he signed likes of Heskey and Pennant and the team spirit broke down...at Sunderland he spent 11m on Connor Wickham and was sacked 2 months later.

And at Hull he signed Dawson, Huddlestone etc. I dread Dr Tony giving him 50m.
Dawson and Huddlestone were decent prem players IMO so no issue with signing players of that quality. Attracting any one better to Hull would always be difficult.

I like Bruce and he has a decent track record. Just wonder whetehr he is a bit past it. Not sure his expanding girth is a great example to his discipline either!

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #444 on: October 02, 2016, 06:30:12 PM »
I know you were auntie. Just funnin'. 

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #445 on: October 02, 2016, 06:31:04 PM »


I think we have to acknowledge that we're not an attractive proposition at the moment, and the likes of Wagner would be perhaps a little mad to even consider coming to us.

Money talks of course, but even then would we really want someone who's only coming for the loot ?

For me it would depend on whether the incumbent actually wanted to earn their wads o' filthy lucre. It'd certainly make a welcome change.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #446 on: October 02, 2016, 06:35:22 PM »
I know you were auntie. Just funnin'. 

Gawdbless ya Bri. Always a pleasure'.  ;)

Offline brian green

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #447 on: October 02, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »
The money they get is irrelevant if they earn it.  It only becomes a problem if they want to take it but fail to deliver value for it.  RDM's reputation for laziness went before him and his stay with us has done nothing to dispel it.

Offline KRS

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #448 on: October 02, 2016, 07:26:09 PM »
Aston Villa is a huge name in English football and a huge draw for any manager. Let's not understate the club and write ourselves off in this next managerial search...it needs to be the right man, with the right experience and knowledge of the game. We don't need another Lambert, Sherwood, Garde or RDM...we need someone with a proven track record of getting consistent results and performances out of the players. No more fuckin about with these charlatans.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #449 on: October 02, 2016, 07:36:15 PM »
Get Doug to choose. He picked, on the whole, some fine managers.

Tongue in cheek, but we need a solid choice.

 


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