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Offline mr underhill

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2370 on: October 09, 2016, 05:14:19 AM »
if Tone had made the Bruce appointment in June, irrespective of what playing staff we then bought in the summer, we would not be sitting in 19th right now.

Offline KRS

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2371 on: October 09, 2016, 05:26:08 AM »
Just a minor...but a positive aspect of Bruce is that we might be seen in a slightly better light in the media particularly if he does well and manages to get this bunch of random players playing some decent football.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2372 on: October 09, 2016, 05:51:41 AM »
The people who have the biggest problem with Bruce were the ones who thought Garde being a leftfield foreign coach was the answer, before him they were all salivating about getting Ole Gunnar Solskjær..

Its a fair cop.

I stand by it though, we have after all had our fair share of crap British managers as well....

Offline brian green

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2373 on: October 09, 2016, 07:13:02 AM »
I also stand by Remi Garde though never keen on OGS.  In my opinion FWIIW Garde was a progressive manager with a brain in his head who became nothing more than collateral damage in the open warfare raging at the club during his time, both in the dressing room and the boardroom.  I said it at the time and I say it now, Remi Garde was too good for a team owned by Randy Lerner 2015/16 vintage.

Massively underwhelmed by Bruce.

Offline jwarry

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2374 on: October 09, 2016, 07:27:24 AM »
Massively underwhelmed by Bruce.

I am too but we really no longer have any choice.  We need experience and he is a safe bet for at lest getting us moving in the right direction.  Who knows what will happen when we do finally get out of the chumps league.  Tone is ambitious but he understands there are steps to take such as signing s bunch of good chumps players. How is the Bruce appointment any different?

Offline Zouch Villa

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2375 on: October 09, 2016, 07:45:20 AM »
Massively underwhelmed by Bruce.

I am too but we really no longer have any choice.  We need experience and he is a safe bet for at lest getting us moving in the right direction.  Who knows what will happen when we do finally get out of the chumps league.  Tone is ambitious but he understands there are steps to take such as signing s bunch of good chumps players. How is the Bruce appointment any different?

That's a very good point. We all recognised the need to sign a certain type of player that could suit this division, even if they would potentially have limited impact in the Prem.

I would much rather we could attract a progressive manager, but having seemingly been down that road and destroyed reputations, maybe Bruce will offer a more resilient approach that could turn this tanker around.

Offline steamer

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2376 on: October 09, 2016, 07:45:47 AM »
Please let it be a contract to the end of the season only, with a bonus and goodbye if we are promoted.
and only the goodbye if we are not.

Offline Dave P

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2377 on: October 09, 2016, 07:48:08 AM »
Massively underwhelmed by Bruce.

I am too but we really no longer have any choice.  We need experience and he is a safe bet for at lest getting us moving in the right direction.  Who knows what will happen when we do finally get out of the chumps league.  Tone is ambitious but he understands there are steps to take such as signing s bunch of good chumps players. How is the Bruce appointment any different?

Excellent point. Appointing Bruce is akin to signing Kodjia in terms of the horses for courses nature of the Championship.

Offline stubbsyandy

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2378 on: October 09, 2016, 07:55:52 AM »
We've been a mess for years and have sacked our new manager a dozen games in and sitting in 19th

Why on earth anyone thinks we'd have the pick of managers is beyond me. I'd definitely take Dyche or Wagner. Other than that I'd be worried they are criminally insane for coming.

It's  similar to people suggesting we should have got Marcus Rashford in on loan over the summer.


This. We are not as galmourous as some would wish right now. A lot of managers will see the instability and what's happened to our managers of recent times (post MON) and probably think we're a poison chalice. I honestly believe that Bruce if appointed would be our best managerial apt for a very long time.
A good measure of where we are at is thoughts of neutral fans. A lot of my mates are Derby and Leicester (living East Midlands now) and they all think Bruce would be a great choice and get us top6 with the squad we have. I am more confident in us getting top 6 than if garde, Sherwood, RDM were knocking around

Agree with both of you...it's time to get real everyone and realise where we are and that this has not happened due to a blip but is a result of decline.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2379 on: October 09, 2016, 08:08:45 AM »
I'm pretty confident he will get us top 6. Might have to wait until next season. Although the league is pretty mediocre so it's doable

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2380 on: October 09, 2016, 08:16:15 AM »
We've been a mess for years and have sacked our new manager a dozen games in and sitting in 19th

Why on earth anyone thinks we'd have the pick of managers is beyond me. I'd definitely take Dyche or Wagner. Other than that I'd be worried they are criminally insane for coming.

It's  similar to people suggesting we should have got Marcus Rashford in on loan over the summer.


This. We are not as galmourous as some would wish right now. A lot of managers will see the instability and what's happened to our managers of recent times (post MON) and probably think we're a poison chalice. I honestly believe that Bruce if appointed would be our best managerial apt for a very long time.
A good measure of where we are at is thoughts of neutral fans. A lot of my mates are Derby and Leicester (living East Midlands now) and they all think Bruce would be a great choice and get us top6 with the squad we have. I am more confident in us getting top 6 than if garde, Sherwood, RDM were knocking around

Agree with both of you...it's time to get real everyone and realise where we are and that this has not happened due to a blip but is a result of decline.


fucking rubbish
the only other team in our league that we can compare with is Newcastle and they have Raffa Benitez as their manager we are about to appoint Steve Bruce, don't you see the big difference here

the saddest thing on this site is some people have given up and think Bruce is the best we can get,
 we take more fans away than some get at home ffs,
 we certainly shouldn't be accepting TSM3 and its a disgrace that we are




Offline Zouch Villa

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2381 on: October 09, 2016, 08:32:26 AM »
We've been a mess for years and have sacked our new manager a dozen games in and sitting in 19th

Why on earth anyone thinks we'd have the pick of managers is beyond me. I'd definitely take Dyche or Wagner. Other than that I'd be worried they are criminally insane for coming.

It's  similar to people suggesting we should have got Marcus Rashford in on loan over the summer.


This. We are not as galmourous as some would wish right now. A lot of managers will see the instability and what's happened to our managers of recent times (post MON) and probably think we're a poison chalice. I honestly believe that Bruce if appointed would be our best managerial apt for a very long time.
A good measure of where we are at is thoughts of neutral fans. A lot of my mates are Derby and Leicester (living East Midlands now) and they all think Bruce would be a great choice and get us top6 with the squad we have. I am more confident in us getting top 6 than if garde, Sherwood, RDM were knocking around

Agree with both of you...it's time to get real everyone and realise where we are and that this has not happened due to a blip but is a result of decline.


fucking rubbish
the only other team in our league that we can compare with is Newcastle and they have Raffa Benitez as their manager we are about to appoint Steve Bruce, don't you see the big difference here

the saddest thing on this site is some people have given up and think Bruce is the best we can get,
 we take more fans away than some get at home ffs,
 we certainly shouldn't be accepting TSM3 and its a disgrace that we are


Sadly the league is measured in neither a clubs stature or it's away support.  We've shredded the reputations of enough managers to doubt our ability to attract many to the job.

I still hold to some hope that we can do better than Bruce, but if the club decide he is the man to get us out of this mess, I'm prepared to get right behind him.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2382 on: October 09, 2016, 08:35:42 AM »
While i would prefer Hughton,  Dyche, maybe even the gamble on Wagner, I don't get turning our nose up at a guy who in his last 3 seasons in the championship has been promoted each time. It is a level of football snobbery that outweighs logic.

Agreed.

Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2383 on: October 09, 2016, 08:38:18 AM »
We've been a mess for years and have sacked our new manager a dozen games in and sitting in 19th

Why on earth anyone thinks we'd have the pick of managers is beyond me. I'd definitely take Dyche or Wagner. Other than that I'd be worried they are criminally insane for coming.

It's  similar to people suggesting we should have got Marcus Rashford in on loan over the summer.


This. We are not as galmourous as some would wish right now. A lot of managers will see the instability and what's happened to our managers of recent times (post MON) and probably think we're a poison chalice. I honestly believe that Bruce if appointed would be our best managerial apt for a very long time.
A good measure of where we are at is thoughts of neutral fans. A lot of my mates are Derby and Leicester (living East Midlands now) and they all think Bruce would be a great choice and get us top6 with the squad we have. I am more confident in us getting top 6 than if garde, Sherwood, RDM were knocking around

Agree with both of you...it's time to get real everyone and realise where we are and that this has not happened due to a blip but is a result of decline.


fucking rubbish
the only other team in our league that we can compare with is Newcastle and they have Raffa Benitez as their manager we are about to appoint Steve Bruce, don't you see the big difference here

the saddest thing on this site is some people have given up and think Bruce is the best we can get,
 we take more fans away than some get at home ffs,
 we certainly shouldn't be accepting TSM3 and its a disgrace that we are





There's a big difference. Benitez was already in the job when Newcastle dropped and they convinced him to stay. There's no way he would have gone there as a new manager while they were in the Championship.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2384 on: October 09, 2016, 08:41:49 AM »
We've been a mess for years and have sacked our new manager a dozen games in and sitting in 19th

Why on earth anyone thinks we'd have the pick of managers is beyond me. I'd definitely take Dyche or Wagner. Other than that I'd be worried they are criminally insane for coming.

It's  similar to people suggesting we should have got Marcus Rashford in on loan over the summer.

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