Dr T has pulled the trigger

[auntiesledd]

Clearly there was a reason why Schalke binned RDM after 7 months; followed by year or so of him rattling around his gaff in Leamington. The man's a fecking chancer - and trust Villa to give him the managerial gig & a pot of cash to blow. Deary me.

Yes. Sorry Dr Xia you may be a Billionaire but you fucked up big time appointing this muppet as out Manager.

Agree with this, but where the fuck is Steve Clarke in all of this? He has been totally anonymous: I thought we were getting a 2+2=5 deal with these guys.

See also Ray Wilkins. There is something inexplicably rotten at the Villa. It's like  people think they can come here and get away with doing jack shit. It's incredibly depressing and worrying and I just don't see how we are going to arrest this spiral of decline

Ain't that the truth. The trouble is they CAN come here & get away with doing Jackie-S! I was hoping that after the catalogue of dreadful managerial appointments during Lerner's abject ownership, things would take a turn for the better. How wrong could I have been?! Well, evidently not any wronger. 

[auntiesledd]

Bruce

Don't bring me down! 

[Big Dick Edwards]

I don't normally advocate the sacking of the manager, especially with our turnover since O'Neill walked out as we're never going to get any stability. However, given the money spent on a squad who on paper should at the very least be in the top 8 and after allowing for the fact that such a huge overhaul requires time for the players to gel as a unit, this cannot be allowed to continue. One win in eleven games in this division is simply unacceptable. It's an international break and is the ideal time to make the change. He has to go today. Bruce for me.

[TaipeiVillain]

Can RDM and Clarke switch positions for a couple of games and see what happens. No compensation necessary?

[mr underhill]

indivisible shiteness.

[aj2k77]

Can RDM and Clarke switch positions for a couple of games and see what happens. No compensation necessary?

Clarke's last job at Reading he was sacked for being a bit shit if I recall right.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Who are the seven Blues fans here that voted to keep him?

[VillaAlways]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/02/roberto-di-matteo-set-to-be-sacked-by-aston-villa-this-weekend/

[nick harper]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/02/roberto-di-matteo-set-to-be-sacked-by-aston-villa-this-weekend/

Percy is generally on the mark with the Villa.

Prising someone currently in work may be tricky. Big few days for Wyness and Round I think.

[dave.woodhall]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/02/roberto-di-matteo-set-to-be-sacked-by-aston-villa-this-weekend/

Percy is generally on the mark with the Villa.

Prising someone currently in work may be tricky. Big few days for Wyness and Round I think.

Percy is no more accurate than anyone else but for some reason is regarded as borderline infallible.

[Dribbler]

Looking at the results, and especially yesterday's, and our current league position, i can see why people might want to replace RDM, especially after the last 5 years we have endured, but do people really think that another change will benefit us in the long run. There's not exactly a long list of stand out candidates...

There's a lot of comments that RDM is a chancer, doesn't know what he's doing etc., yet the guy has won promotion from the championship and a Champions League trophy as manager, accolades i would suggest that indicate given the right circumstances, he must know how to do something right.

The thing is, whenever managers are mentioned, there's always people (not necessarily the same people) that say, 'yeah, but but he didn't too well at x, or y, club, and he was sacked from so and so club', but then again barring a very select few, every manager, even ones that have been successful at some clubs, have a list of failures and sackings on their CV, that's just the nature of football, every club wants to be successful and only a few in each league can be.

One of the key things about managers being successful seems to be time, and whilst being given time isn't a guarantor of success, it would seem to be an essential element in most manager's success. I'm not sure how people think that 10 games is adequate to build and mould a team, essentially from scratch, but tbh it's a fairly ludicrous and fanciful expectation. It can take a fair whilst for a manager to take a lot of new players, implement and refine his ideas in training, and tinker with his best combinations of players. Ultimately the players are the ones that have to take this onboard, gel together and form an understanding, and then... actually implement it on the pitch when there is another team on the pitch who have their own ideas about how a game will be played.

It's a kind of arrogance to expect that just because we've spent a lot of money on a team, that they will suddenly be a great team, and should be beating a lot of the teams we play. Many of these teams have been built up over a sustained period of time, with a consistent managerial approach over seasons, and have a core group of players that know each other well and have that team intuition and organisation that can only come through playing together for several seasons. This is just as important as having a great set of players. In my opinion, changing a manager now would just take away the one thing we really needs to progress, and that is stability of coaching and management. If the Dr does decide to get rid of RDM, then for the sake of consistency, i'd say promote Steve Clarke to the managers position and see how that goes.

Ultimately though (and this is the bit where i don my tin hat) i think it's a bit fickle to be asking for a change after only 10 games or so, how is Moyes doing at Sunderland, Pearson at Derby? I could go on, neither bad managers IMO, but need the right circumstances and time to succeed. I'm not sure if anyone has any stats about manager's first 10 games in charge of various clubs, but i'm sure it'd make interesting reading.

[gpbarr]

Stick with Di Matteo please. Changing manager every ten minutes doesn't seem to have helped Leeds.

I agree no change yet. Although my patience is starting to get thinner. We are consistently making the same mistakes. We sit back on a lead and then concede. Where the fuck are all these 'leaders' we signed?

I used to be strongly in that camp. But we have plumbed new depths in the past few weeks and I see nothing at all to warrant giving him more time. Players are lost on the pitch, unfathomable line ups, fragile as shit, followed by inexcusable excuses.

Hiring and firing managers every 2 mins isn't the way to go but his record so far in a very poor division is shocking. How long do you give him??

[mr underhill]

as long as this - it has to stop now.

[VillaAlways]

It's the nature of the defeats/draws  that has got him the sack not the results themselves

As the Doc himself said It's unforgivable not to learn from your mistakes

[The Edge]

It's the nature of the defeats/draws  that has got him the sack not the results themselves

As the Doc himself said It's unforgivable not to learn from your mistakes

When we played Forest a while back I thought we were the dogs nuts going forward but our defensive frailties let us down. We have somehow managed to lose that attacking ability but the defensive frailties remain. And it's getting worse every time we play. For that reason I believe it's time up for Robbie & Steve Anonymous Clarke.
Big Sam for me all the way.