Dr T has pulled the trigger

[villadelph]

 I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are.

This time two years ago, the table said we were a Champions League side.

In 2014 we had 10 points at this stage and had just lost to QPR?

We were 3rd when we got turned over by Arsenal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29187273


Didn't play QPR away until Oct 27.

That was the 5th match of the season.. we're on round 10 today?

[aj2k77]

 I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are.

This time two years ago, the table said we were a Champions League side.

In 2014 we had 10 points at this stage and had just lost to QPR?

We were 3rd when we got turned over by Arsenal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29187273


Didn't play QPR away until Oct 27.

Pedant/bore alert, we'd just been beaten by Chelsea and were 6th.

[villadelph]

 I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are.

This time two years ago, the table said we were a Champions League side.

In 2014 we had 10 points at this stage and had just lost to QPR?

We were 3rd when we got turned over by Arsenal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29187273


Didn't play QPR away until Oct 27.

Pedant/bore alert, we'd just been beaten by Chelsea and were 6th.

Winless in 9 after that Arsenal game

[KevinGage]

 I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are.

This time two years ago, the table said we were a Champions League side.

In 2014 we had 10 points at this stage and had just lost to QPR?

We were 3rd when we got turned over by Arsenal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29187273


Didn't play QPR away until Oct 27.

That was the 5th match of the season.. we're on round 10 today?

Are we playing in the cup?

So when you said 'I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are' you meant after 10 games?

I'll pick an equally arbitrary number. Lets say 4. 

[villadelph]

 I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are.

This time two years ago, the table said we were a Champions League side.

In 2014 we had 10 points at this stage and had just lost to QPR?

We were 3rd when we got turned over by Arsenal.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29187273


Didn't play QPR away until Oct 27.

That was the 5th match of the season.. we're on round 10 today?

Are we playing in the cup?

So when you said 'I'm just a big believer in the idea that you are what the table says you are' you meant after 10 games?

I'll pick an equally arbitrary number. Lets say 4.

 

Whatever, man. We're in 17th, with 9 goals in 9 games, gifting points and unable to win. Make of it what you will. If you want to call a 50m transfer window followed up by those kind of results arbitrary than so be it, I commend your patience. I have a higher standard for the club.

[KevinGage]

Do you see how the table might not tell the full story depending on what time of year you are looking at it?

It's why the FA weren't presenting us with the trophy when we were top at Christmas under Gregory a years back and we didn't sack O'Neill when he was down towards the arse end of the table in his first season (and after spending shitloads -relative to the time).

[cdward]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37489071

I see Pearson has been suspended by Derby. So glad we dodged that bullet.
They really do look rubbish.
We have to keep the faith.

[villadelph]

Do you see how the table might not tell the full story depending on what time of year you are looking at it?

It's why the FA weren't presenting us with the trophy when we were top at Christmas under Gregory a years back and we didn't sack O'Neill when he was down towards the arse end of the table in his first season (and after spending shitloads -relative to the time).

But we're in the Championship now Kevin.. struggling to score goals, having a tough time seeing out games, unsure of who our best XI are, and still committing  defensive errors. All post-spending 50m, recruiting captains and those with promotion experience. It's just not good enough.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this league is not as tough as some people are convincing themselves. The individual quality is very low and the collective squad quality in the league is mediocre at best. I don't have the patience for this anymore. I don't buy the "gel" excuse. Get some wins.

I think we look like a team that deserves the 9 points it's collected over 9 games. That was my original point. That first half against Newcastle was just awful. 

[PeterWithesShin]

I hope we keep RDM just to make sure we don't end up with  Pearson. Remember how he was guaranteed promotion for whoever was lucky enough to get him.......

[villadelph]

I hope we keep RDM just to make sure we don't end up with  Pearson. Remember how he was guaranteed promotion for whoever was lucky enough to get him.......

I think RDM, Bruce and Pearson are all capable of promoting clubs.. but their management styles couldn't be more different.

[KevinGage]

Do you see how the table might not tell the full story depending on what time of year you are looking at it?

It's why the FA weren't presenting us with the trophy when we were top at Christmas under Gregory a years back and we didn't sack O'Neill when he was down towards the arse end of the table in his first season (and after spending shitloads -relative to the time).

But we're in the Championship now Kevin.. struggling to score goals, having a tough time seeing out games, unsure of who our best XI are, and still committing  defensive errors. All post-spending 50m, recruiting captains and those with promotion experience. It's just not good enough.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this league is not as tough as some people are convincing themselves. The individual quality is very low and the collective squad quality in the league is mediocre at best. I don't have the patience for this anymore. I don't buy the "gel" excuse. Get some wins.

I think we look like a team that deserves the 9 points it's collected over 9 games. That was my original point. That first half against Newcastle was just awful. 

There are aspects of Di Matteo's management to-date that have been suspect.  The formations, not signing better than Westwood, playing Championship Fantasy Football when it comes to purchases, picking Westwood and so on and so on.

But we will look like an absolute circus if we get rid now.

Give him every reasonable chance to succeed (or fail) after making that level of finance available.  There is a decent argument to be made that our performances to date have merited more points.  If the performance levels dip n'all (and the longer we go without a win, I'd say that's a given) he's in trouble.

[seanthevillan]

Do you see how the table might not tell the full story depending on what time of year you are looking at it?

It's why the FA weren't presenting us with the trophy when we were top at Christmas under Gregory a years back and we didn't sack O'Neill when he was down towards the arse end of the table in his first season (and after spending shitloads -relative to the time).

But we're in the Championship now Kevin.. struggling to score goals, having a tough time seeing out games, unsure of who our best XI are, and still committing  defensive errors. All post-spending 50m, recruiting captains and those with promotion experience. It's just not good enough.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this league is not as tough as some people are convincing themselves. The individual quality is very low and the collective squad quality in the league is mediocre at best. I don't have the patience for this anymore. I don't buy the "gel" excuse. Get some wins.

I think we look like a team that deserves the 9 points it's collected over 9 games. That was my original point. That first half against Newcastle was just awful. 

There are aspects of Di Matteo's management to-date that have been suspect.  The formations, not signing better than Westwood, playing Championship Fantasy Football when it comes to purchases, picking Westwood and so on and so on.

But we will look like an absolute circus if we get rid now.

Give him every reasonable chance to succeed (or fail) after making that level of finance available.  There is a decent argument to be made that our performances to date have merited more points.  If the performance levels dip n'all (and the longer we go without a win, I'd say that's a given) he's in trouble.

I especially agree with the circus bit.

I don't think this is similar to the Sherwood situation when anyone who'd actually bothered watching Villa could see that he was completely clueless. Di Matteo is under pressure for results and a few (3?) bad performances - I still think he should be given time to get the team to gel.

That said the decision to go 3 at the back against teams playing 1 up front is a bit worrying and I don't blame anyone getting nervous.

[Leicester_Villian]

Taxi for RDM back to Rome ......

[caster troy]

I'd sack him tomorrow if we can get Big Sam in.

[Risso]

My patience has run out, time to go Roberto.