Dr T has pulled the trigger

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There's got to be signs of progression though and that had to be results as much as performances. I'd actually say 3 points despite playing badly would actually be a big indicator of progression. December 2013 was the last time we played poorly and won.

[mr underhill]

if he can't helm the side to victory he has to go, and in my opinion he's on limited time. The money spent this season was a sign that our expectation was to get up, not flounder in the lower reaches.

[brian green]

Exactly Mr U.  I was heartened by the appearance of a topic headed "No more excuses now".  This morning it was 45th in the table and falling fast without a post in two weeks.

[Tayls_7]

Exactly Mr U.  I was heartened by the appearance of a topic headed "No more excuses now".  This morning it was 45th in the table and falling fast without a post in two weeks.

I was going to post on that thread the other day but my dog licked the screen and my post disappeared.

[not3bad]

Exactly Mr U.  I was heartened by the appearance of a topic headed "No more excuses now".  This morning it was 45th in the table and falling fast without a post in two weeks.

I was going to post on that thread the other day but my dog licked the screen and my post disappeared.

It's a sign.

[john e]

Why do people keep mentioning Steve Bruce? I've even seen someone on here mention McCarthy and Warnock. Are these fans that only follow football on Ceefax?

Bruce has got teams promoted before. I think he'd organise and motivate these players better than RDM. The players simply aren't fit enough to play 2 games a week which is shocking. Look at the Brentford game only 72 hours after Forest. Players looked knackered after 45 minutes. Simply inexcusable.

Promoted teams before !
so has RDM so has Lambert so has Mcliesh so has a long list of very ordinary jobsworth mercenary managers of which Bruce is one

Maybe so, but as I said, the team isn't fit enough to last 90 minutes twice a week. That's down to poor fitness coaching which is part of RDM's backroom team. No excuses.

Fitness.....have you seen Steve Bruce he hasn't got the discipline to look after himself never mind his team

[AVH87]

Why do people keep mentioning Steve Bruce? I've even seen someone on here mention McCarthy and Warnock. Are these fans that only follow football on Ceefax?

Bruce has got teams promoted before. I think he'd organise and motivate these players better than RDM. The players simply aren't fit enough to play 2 games a week which is shocking. Look at the Brentford game only 72 hours after Forest. Players looked knackered after 45 minutes. Simply inexcusable.

Promoted teams before !
so has RDM so has Lambert so has Mcliesh so has a long list of very ordinary jobsworth mercenary managers of which Bruce is one

Maybe so, but as I said, the team isn't fit enough to last 90 minutes twice a week. That's down to poor fitness coaching which is part of RDM's backroom team. No excuses.

Fitness.....have you seen Steve Bruce he hasn't got the discipline to look after himself never mind his team

Hull won the play-off final in extra time in May.

[Witton Warrior]

I am reserving judgment for the next 7 games (reckon we need 14 points from them)  That last match in October could be a crucial day for RDM?

[sid1964]

How many more seasons is supposedly lack of fitness going to be a problem

What do our lot do in pre season, go for an occasional JOG???

[Chico Hamilton III]

The RdM / Clarke combo needs to be given more time. It's far too early to consider other options.

I wonder what their relationship is like? first time they've worked together

[Ad@m]

the clamour for Bruce gets on my nerves,
 as if he's some guaranteed miracle worker, he's a journey man manager that's had some promotions and a few relegations,
 like a miriad of other managers, Holloway and Warnock both good at getting teams out of this division and that's the company Bruce belongs in

The bit I really struggle with is the comparison between Bruce and Pulis.

They're both very similar managers to my mind - organised, unspectacular, and experienced.  Neither are renowned for particularly attractive football.  Neither have a great pedigree in terms of managing top clubs.  Both have got teams promoted from the Championship but importantly only one has got teams relegated from the Prem.

And yet Bruce is increasingly seen on these pages as the answer whilst Pulis is seen as some sort of red line.

I don't get it.

[pauliewalnuts]

the clamour for Bruce gets on my nerves,
 as if he's some guaranteed miracle worker, he's a journey man manager that's had some promotions and a few relegations,
 like a miriad of other managers, Holloway and Warnock both good at getting teams out of this division and that's the company Bruce belongs in

The bit I really struggle with is the comparison between Bruce and Pulis.

They're both very similar managers to my mind - organised, unspectacular, and experienced.  Neither are renowned for particularly attractive football.  Neither have a great pedigree in terms of managing top clubs.  Both have got teams promoted from the Championship but importantly only one has got teams relegated from the Prem.

And yet Bruce is increasingly seen on these pages as the answer whilst Pulis is seen as some sort of red line.

I don't get it.

Pulis is known for particularly unattractive football - the most unattractive we've seen in years, many would say, Bruce is not. That's the difference.

[KevinGage]

Bruce has got teams promoted to the top flight three times - most recently last season.

Pulis has had a side promoted once - back in 2008.

If we are picking managers based on what they did eight years ago, MON might be worth a call.  Pulis is also in a job, Bruce isn't.

What's not to get.

Not that I'd want Potatohead in a month of Sundays. Hopefully RDM learns to tell the difference between his derriere and that pointy bit of his arm in the next few weeks and makes such talk redundant. Either that, or he'll be redundant.

[mr underhill]

but considerably richer

[Clampy]

I'm glad Dr Tone is telling fans to stay positive. He absolutely right to.