Dr T has pulled the trigger

[four fornicholl]

I have no idea what Hugh Gaitskell would say about Villa only winning 4 games in the last 48 and people being prepared to attack anyone who dares to say it is not good enough, I was only a boy when I met him.  I was 61when Denis Healey came to my house.  He came with Terry Waite if that gives you inspiration to have another pop at me.

You've met Terry Waite Brian? I'm green with envoy.

According to embassy the envoy came in a purple packet.

[LeeB]

I have no idea what Hugh Gaitskell would say about Villa only winning 4 games in the last 48 and people being prepared to attack anyone who dares to say it is not good enough, I was only a boy when I met him.  I was 61when Denis Healey came to my house.  He came with Terry Waite if that gives you inspiration to have another pop at me.

You've met Terry Waite Brian? I'm green with envoy.

Very good.

I'll try to remember the Jackie/Sunnie Mann joke I was told once for the joke thread. 

I christened a girl in my year at school 'Sunnie' on the basis of her large spectacles and it stuck for years.

I hope in retrospect it hasn't affected her adversely, or that she's had her husband kidnapped.

[Villafirst]

Why do people keep mentioning Steve Bruce? I've even seen someone on here mention McCarthy and Warnock. Are these fans that only follow football on Ceefax?

Bruce has got teams promoted before. I think he'd organise and motivate these players better than RDM. The players simply aren't fit enough to play 2 games a week which is shocking. Look at the Brentford game only 72 hours after Forest. Players looked knackered after 45 minutes. Simply inexcusable.

[go on the dog]

Lars Largerback with King Olaf as assistant for me

[Rigadon]

Mark Hughes could be available soon

Stoke evidently have aspirations to be this season's Villa.

In their dreams

[john e]

Why do people keep mentioning Steve Bruce? I've even seen someone on here mention McCarthy and Warnock. Are these fans that only follow football on Ceefax?

Bruce has got teams promoted before. I think he'd organise and motivate these players better than RDM. The players simply aren't fit enough to play 2 games a week which is shocking. Look at the Brentford game only 72 hours after Forest. Players looked knackered after 45 minutes. Simply inexcusable.

Promoted teams before !
so has RDM so has Lambert so has Mcliesh so has a long list of very ordinary jobsworth mercenary managers of which Bruce is one

[DeKuip]

And the team currently top of the league are managed by someone who's only ran a B team before! And they're decent to watch as well.

[clash city rocker]

 So who will go first..RDM or Mourinho ?

[Ads]

And the team currently top of the league are managed by someone who's only ran a B team before! And they're decent to watch as well.

Not seen them on the box yet. Thought they were one of the poorest sides to ever grace Villa Park for an hour to be honest. Scannell and Wells changed the game

[Villafirst]

Why do people keep mentioning Steve Bruce? I've even seen someone on here mention McCarthy and Warnock. Are these fans that only follow football on Ceefax?

Bruce has got teams promoted before. I think he'd organise and motivate these players better than RDM. The players simply aren't fit enough to play 2 games a week which is shocking. Look at the Brentford game only 72 hours after Forest. Players looked knackered after 45 minutes. Simply inexcusable.

Promoted teams before !
so has RDM so has Lambert so has Mcliesh so has a long list of very ordinary jobsworth mercenary managers of which Bruce is one

Maybe so, but as I said, the team isn't fit enough to last 90 minutes twice a week. That's down to poor fitness coaching which is part of RDM's backroom team. No excuses.

[old man villa fan]

I might be wrong but didn't RDM say our aim was promotion in 2 seasons? So that would be the Docs aim would be too. On that basis he will be given time surely

Having read through all 33 pages before getting to your comment, I was about to make the same point.  Although I think the exact comment was "within two seasons" i.e. go for it this season but if we didn't quite make it, it wouldn't be the end of the world.  What I am reading on here is that it is the end of the world.

I still do not understand how people that watch a lot of football think that you can throw 11 new players (and not the same 11 each match for one reason or another) on to the pitch and expect them to work as a well drilled team against teams that have been playing together for a couple of seasons.  From what I have seen this season, the players are playing as individuals and other players have almost stood there watching them and expecting them to just do something.

Putting aside the last two matches for a moment, if we had had a fair run of the ball, rather than everything going against us, we could quite easily had another 6 points and being in the top six.  If that had been the case, I would go further to say that we would not have witnessed the last two performances.  Fine lines between success and what some are calling total failure.

I am looking at the season so far as being 2 defeats in 8, rather than 1 win in 8.  No way does this reflect the 1 win in 10 or 11 given as example of previous managers, as a reason for sacking, when the majority of the other 9 or 10 games were defeats.  We need stability at this club and that means keeping the manager, not setting targets over the next 3 games as a benchmark for keeping or getting rid of the manager.

[Fred Crump]

Don't think we should ditch RDM yet , but if he did we could do worse than Graham Alexander at Scunthorpe. Ok, League 1 but look where they are... Model pro, top bloke and dare I say it,very much in the Rowett mould.

[pbavfckuwait]

On my earlier post I put that results will determine RDM's future, but also something that may give him a bit longer, is the structure the club is looking to go forward with, by appointing Round,it is that these players are never ever going to be the managers fully, they will be brought to fit into a style of play and pattern regardless of who the manager is, this will not be bedded in enough at the moment obviously.
Also as mentioned before, my main concern from him, is the apparent disconnect between him and the team during the game, he does not need to be a manic idiot on the side lines, but after Garde and Black, that's probably the last thing alot of the support want to see again.
I had the pleasure of watching TSM1 and TSM 2 giving their expert advise here on Bein this weekend and they both looked in perfect health and I am sure with a bank balance boosted by their failure at Villa park.
I hope he succeeds because then AVFC are succeeding, but at this present time, I have a horrible feeling he is another , "put the money in the bank, theres always another gig down the road, if not I will become a talking head".

[ozzjim]

Lol fair point that.

Not sure who we could get that's a certainty to be any better in fairness at the moment.  Bruce (I was taking the piss wroth the comparison to Allardyce last season) is as inspiring an option as fungal nail infections. I would hope Steve Round is currently snoring European leagues for the best coaches out there. Worryingly Di Matteo seems to be following Garde into unluckiest manager in the league territory.  Injuries, missed chances, woodwork, bookings and dodgy refs all over the shop. Maybe we would end up with Harry in the short term considering Bond is here already. 

[Mister E]

The RdM / Clarke combo needs to be given more time. It's far too early to consider other options.