Dr T has pulled the trigger

[Matt Collins]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

I just  think its daft to invest that much money in players and then after 8 games go, "fuck it" and start again. For a start a new guy will have different ideas of how to play which probably won't suit a lot of RDM's signings so is DR T going to provide another 50m in January?. Unless you're one of the promotion or bust mob, we have for once a little time to see how things work out or not

Not only is it daft, it would also give me the heeby jeebies about Doctor Tony. Only morons or extremely rash or influencable people would do that

[oswald funkletrumpet]

i could empathise if i could see rdm had got us set up solidly and we had some form of style to our play

he hasnt and has had zero impact, zero

from 4 2 4 to 3 5 2 the bloke is fucking clueless

[sickbeggar]

That's the crux. The aim isn't to stay or consolidate in this league, it's to win it, failing that second, failing those successful in the play offs.

I want him to succeed desperately, there's just no evidence that he will.

And how many teams as bad as us last season do that? We weren't just relegated, we were record breakingly bad - the gold standard for awful football teams. I'm all for miracle recoveries like SGT performed but they don't happen very often in the real world.

[Clampy]

i could empathise if i could see rdm had got us set up solidly and we had some form of style to our play

he hasnt and has had zero impact, zero

from 4 2 4 to 3 5 2 the bloke is fucking clueless

You're making it sound as if he's the only manager in the world who's ever changed formations. A promotion with WBA, Top 6 in Germany and two trophies as a caretaker manager with Chelsea doesn't sound fucking clueless to me.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

i could empathise if i could see rdm had got us set up solidly and we had some form of style to our play

he hasnt and has had zero impact, zero

from 4 2 4 to 3 5 2 the bloke is fucking clueless

You're making it sound as if he's the only manager in the world who's ever changed formations. A promotion with WBA, Top 6 in Germany and two trophies as a caretaker manager with Chelsea doesn't sound fucking clueless to me.

so shoehorning all of your attackers into the side at the expense of the midfield isnt clueless?

losing to a fourth divison side and making richards captain irnt clueless?

playing westwood and gardner together isnt clueless?

i dont care what he has done in the past im bothered about here and now which isnt good enough

[richtheholtender]

I don't get the time to gel excuse now. I could when we brought the like of Lowton, Westwood etc for the "young and hungry" project, but the reason we brought 29-32 year olds was to hit the ground running.

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That's the crux. The aim isn't to stay or consolidate in this league, it's to win it, failing that second, failing those successful in the play offs.

I want him to succeed desperately, there's just no evidence that he will.

And how many teams as bad as us last season do that? We weren't just relegated, we were record breakingly bad - the gold standard for awful football teams. I'm all for miracle recoveries like SGT performed but they don't happen very often in the real world.

Sunderland did it. Had to change their manager early on though

[VillaAlways]

I might be wrong but didn't RDM say our aim was promotion in 2 seasons? So that would be the Docs aim would be too. On that basis he will be given time surely

[TonyD]

Playing Westwood is pretty clueless.    He is the new EH. 

[Clampy]

i could empathise if i could see rdm had got us set up solidly and we had some form of style to our play

he hasnt and has had zero impact, zero

from 4 2 4 to 3 5 2 the bloke is fucking clueless

You're making it sound as if he's the only manager in the world who's ever changed formations. A promotion with WBA, Top 6 in Germany and two trophies as a caretaker manager with Chelsea doesn't sound fucking clueless to me.

so shoehorning all of your attackers into the side at the expense of the midfield isnt clueless?

losing to a fourth divison side and making richards captain irnt clueless?

playing westwood and gardner together isnt clueless?

i dont care what he has done in the past im bothered about here and now which isnt good enough

So lets sack hkm after 8 games and start again with a manager who's players are not his. Now that would be clueless.

[Risso]

i could empathise if i could see rdm had got us set up solidly and we had some form of style to our play

he hasnt and has had zero impact, zero

from 4 2 4 to 3 5 2 the bloke is fucking clueless

You're making it sound as if he's the only manager in the world who's ever changed formations. A promotion with WBA, Top 6 in Germany and two trophies as a caretaker manager with Chelsea doesn't sound fucking clueless to me.

so shoehorning all of your attackers into the side at the expense of the midfield isnt clueless?

losing to a fourth divison side and making richards captain irnt clueless?

playing westwood and gardner together isnt clueless?

i dont care what he has done in the past im bothered about here and now which isnt good enough

So lets sack hkm after 8 games and start again with a manager who's players are not his. Now that would be clueless.

They weren't RDM's players until a few weeks back.  Anyway, they might be RDM's players but he clearly isn't getting anywhere near the best out of them.  ALL new managers have to make do with somebody else's players at least until the next transfer window.

[ez]

I might be wrong but didn't RDM say our aim was promotion in 2 seasons? So that would be the Docs aim would be too. On that basis he will be given time surely

I haven't seen that but i think it's reasonable after last season disaster. I thought we'd be doing better than we are though.

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Two years to come up? He must mean he thinks we will be promoted from League 1 next season.

[VillaAlways]

‘I believe we can. Look at the club's history, its infrastructure, the fan base. It will get back into the Premier League and it is only a question of when. I have a two-year project to get back to the Premier League.

[Matt Collins]

Westwood and Gardner have only ever played together when there's been no other choice. What do you expect him to do?

I agree he fucked up against forest by not changing it when we were 2-1 up. But it was his gung Ho tactics that got us into the lead