Dr T has pulled the trigger

[The Edge]

I think there is a danger of over analysing making us see things that are not there. A combination of injuries, late signings and a general getting to know each other period coupled with a large dollop of bad luck (hitting the woodwork and bizarre goals conceded from keepers kicks) has put us in a worse position than our efforts have deserved. This has consequently transferred to an understandably jittery set of fans. Getting rid now would just add to the sense of panic and ratchet up the pressure on the squad further when what they need is a period of stability while they turn themselves from a recently assembled bunch of individuals into a coherent team.

Totally agree mate.

[john e]

the clamour for Bruce gets on my nerves,
 as if he's some guaranteed miracle worker, he's a journey man manager that's had some promotions and a few relegations,
 like a miriad of other managers, Holloway and Warnock both good at getting teams out of this division and that's the company Bruce belongs in

if we do make a change we need a manager who looks like he wants the challenge, where he wants to rebuild Villa and recognises the total commitment to the job, not just another payroll notch on the managerial cv, which I feel it is for the likes of Bruce and RDM and loads of others if I'm honest,

I know we look back at the SGT first time and dream the same this time but that's what we need, someone who is up to the job to sort this shit out

 

[Monty]

Well bloody said John.

[sickbeggar]

If we are 15 pts off a play off place in November we will be touch and go for bottom of the league, how can we be going in the right direction?

I've seen enough to know we've got no chance of going down. My expectations this season were never much above stopping the rot personally. I believe once the players have settled then we will get a better idea of where we are  by mid-November. If we're bottom of the league by November then aye maybe its not working out, but if we're lower mid-tablish and the result are picking up i'll be happy. Even if we got the same points in the next 8 games we wouldn't be in the relegation area by mid-november

[OzVilla]

the clamour for Bruce gets on my nerves,
 as if he's some guaranteed miracle worker, he's a journey man manager that's had some promotions and a few relegations,
 like a miriad of other managers, Holloway and Warnock both good at getting teams out of this division and that's the company Bruce belongs in

if we do make a change we need a manager who looks like he wants the challenge, where he wants to rebuild Villa and recognises the total commitment to the job, not just another payroll notch on the managerial cv, which I feel it is for the likes of Bruce and RDM and loads of others if I'm honest,

I know we look back at the SGT first time and dream the same this time but that's what we need, someone who is up to the job to sort this shit out

 

Which is why I envy Liverpool so much with Klopp. A terrific manager who you can tell really 'gets them'.  How we've wished for someone like that amid the crushing 'honest bunch of lads', 'we go again' style senseless soundbites we've put up with over our decline.

[The Edge]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

[Clampy]

Changing the manager doesn't always work though as we found out last season. I'd be very surprised if Dr Tony is looking at other managers, very surprised.

[The Edge]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

It might not mean keeping the manager. We need calm heads to make the right call for our club. It's the club that has to get it right. That's what I'm saying. This is about the fate of Aston Villa football club. Doing the wrong thing now would be disastrous.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

totally agree

failing to win one of the next two gives us one win in ten which is sacking territory and after spending 50 odd million

rdm is on thin ice

[sickbeggar]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

I just  think its daft to invest that much money in players and then after 8 games go, "fuck it" and start again. For a start a new guy will have different ideas of how to play which probably won't suit a lot of RDM's signings so is DR T going to provide another 50m in January?. Unless you're one of the promotion or bust mob, we have for once a little time to see how things work out or not

[Chico Hamilton III]

Changing the manager doesn't always work though as we found out last season. I'd be very surprised if Dr Tony is looking at other managers, very surprised.

Changing our last few managers didn't work because we waited too long to get rid of obvious failures. I'm not saying that about Di Matteo yet, bythe way, but things need to change quickly.

[Ads]

That's the crux. The aim isn't to stay or consolidate in this league, it's to win it, failing that second, failing those successful in the play offs.

I want him to succeed desperately, there's just no evidence that he will.

[saunders_heroes]

How long should Xia give him then, till Christmas? Could be too late then.

[Clampy]

Is it any wonder so many fans are trigger happy after what we've had to go through over the last 6 years. When it comes to patience (something that's called for regularly on here) Villa fans are up there with the best of them.

It's true that our patience is thin and fans are feeling trigger happy and have every right to feel that way. But the club have to get it right. A sacking after 8 games would be ludicrous and very dangerous for the stability of our club. We have got to hold our collective nerve. This is no time to panic.Knee jerk reactions right now is exactly what the club does not need.

You say the club have to get it right but why does that have to mean keeping the current manager? What if getting it right means admitting we have the wrong man in charge and quickly rectifying the situation? Why is that panicking?

Anyway, it's all down to Xia and I reckon he'll be looking at replacements already, whatever we think.

I just  think its daft to invest that much money in players and then after 8 games go, "fuck it" and start again. For a start a new guy will have different ideas of how to play which probably won't suit a lot of RDM's signings so is DR T going to provide another 50m in January?. Unless you're one of the promotion or bust mob, we have for once a little time to see how things work out or not

That's my take as well. All the players are what RDM wanted so sacking him now would be rather stupid in my opinion. Besides, he hasn't failed at anything here yet, we've just made a poor start. It's hardly a sacking offence.