Dr T has pulled the trigger

[KevinGage]

I never thought for  single moment that we would go up this year, but I believe the team will click at some point this season and put together a convincing run which will provide the platform for promotion next year. This is pretty much what  RDM said in early interviews.

Many would have had sympathy with that point of view at the start of the summer.

But we kept most of our better players and spent the guts of £50 million. No side does that just to tread water in the Championship.

[exiled on the wirral!]

Another quote for you, this one from Denis Healey on the subject of stability.  He said "the ultimate stability is the stability of the graveyard".

Do you think he was referring to a football manager who had lost twice in 8 games...one due to catastrophic goal keeping error which no manager can legislate for.

[pauliewalnuts]

4 wins from our last 48 league games.

Is it any wonder some folks are getting worried and don't have a shitload of patience? We're in Division 2 and still don't look capable of winning games on a regular basis. Despite playing at a lower level and having a load of new players all the weaknesses from the last few years still seem to be there, the only difference is the opposition are a lot shitter than in previous seasons.

This exactly.

But apparently you're being fickle because someone thought up a new song for the manager.

Excuse me..It was you who labelled me as talking bullshit. I think the 'fickle' tag, in my opinion,  is just as reasonable.

You called people fickle because not long ago they were singing a song about Xia and the manager and now they're not happy, then go on to accuse people of being patronising?

Can you not see the irony in that?

[OzVilla]

The Blose game at the end of October is a good yardstick as to where we are. If we're still bumbling around then there's a decision to make. Not yet though.

[exiled on the wirral!]

4 wins from our last 48 league games.

Is it any wonder some folks are getting worried and don't have a shitload of patience? We're in Division 2 and still don't look capable of winning games on a regular basis. Despite playing at a lower level and having a load of new players all the weaknesses from the last few years still seem to be there, the only difference is the opposition are a lot shitter than in previous seasons.

This exactly.

But apparently you're being fickle because someone thought up a new song for the manager.

Excuse me..It was you who labelled me as talking bullshit. I think the 'fickle' tag, in my opinion,  is just as reasonable.

You called people fickle because not long ago they were singing a song about Xia and the manager and now they're not happy, then go on to accuse people of being patronising?

Can you not see the irony in that?

Not really no...saying someone is talking bullshit because they offer a different opinion I find offensive..but I wouldn't expect you to see that either

[lovejoy]

It's too early to pull the trigger even though the start gas been disappointing. We aren't far off from irking up a few wins and eith a bit of luck and momentum we should make the play offs. If by season end we haven't improved, that's the time to take stock and make a decision.

[brian green]

Exiled in the wirral for purposes of clarity, Denis Healey was actually referring to the British economy when he said the ultimate stability is the stability of the graveyard.  It applies perfectly to the situation at Aston Villa.  If you focus exclusively on keeping still, not making any plan for progress everything inevitably stalls.  You can believe whatever you like including the deprecation of respected posters like pauliewalnuts but to any reasonable observer our playing record in the second division shows no vestige whatsoever of any kind of plan for survival let alone promotion.  It is the stability Lambert promised Lerner, mid table mediocrity underpinned by the diminution of supporters' expectations.  And that was in a division higher.

 I have said this many times over the last six years but I will say it again.  You get the team you are prepared to accept.  Go easy on them, make excuses for them, give them every consideration regardless of whether they deserve it or not, turn a blind eye to how they conduct themselves, their lifestyles, their characters and their self respect and you get a team that wins 4 games in 48 and trumpets a home win against Rotherham as a glorious page in the history of the club.

[MonsXI]

Get Rowett in!

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Sacking him would be pretty daft I think. Who on earth do you think will come in who's better?

He's got to have at least til Xmas.

You can't sack someone after a handful of games.

[Clampy]

Sacking him would be pretty daft I think. Who on earth do you think will come in who's better?

He's got to have at least til Xmas.

You can't sack someone after a handful of games.

No you're right and we shouldn't. The internet brings out the impaitence in some fans though.

[Nunkin1965]

A decent away point against one of the battle hardened dinosaurs of the Championship?
No change for me yet. Blues might be riding off into the distance at the moment and I think that's unsettling a few but this is a mad, mad, mad, mad league. Wolves' last 2 games proves that.

Dr T might pull the trigger but aren't we turning into Leeds United if we do it now?

[brian green]

The internet also brings out the patience of others and provides the opportunity to the impatient to suggest that patience might well be counter productive.  I shall go out to feed my poultry in a minute.  I could well be advised to be patient before hoping to collect any eggs.  On the other hand I could acknowledge that they are all cockerels.

[PeterWithe]

I'd take stock after 20 or so games, there are some worrying signs that he hasn't got a way he wants to play and results haven't been anywhere near good enough. He's on notice.

[The Edge]

The internet also brings out the patience of others and provides the opportunity to the impatient to suggest that patience might well be counter productive.  I shall go out to feed my poultry in a minute.  I could well be advised to be patient before hoping to collect any eggs.  On the other hand I could acknowledge that they are all cockerels.

Ah monsieur Cantona where have you been?

[Richard E]

Is there actually any evidence away from fans' forums and social media that his position is at any risk within the club?