Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest Post Match Thread

[aj2k77]

Time to show some grit and grind some results out. Throwing away all these leads, 3 so far already is just going to make the ''new'' team as nervous as the old one.

[Virgil Caine]

Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but thought it was worth mentioning the minute's applause on 23 minutes for the villa fan who lost his battle with cancer aged 24. Have to admit I didn't know what it was about until afterwards

Likewise CJ - feel terrible now as I had presumed it was a bizarre recognition of 9/11 or a mistimed Dalian appreciation. I'll make a donation to Cancer Research today by means of an apology to the Villa fans family.

[Ads]

Even with the midfield though, we've created enough chances to win two games. They're not half chances either, we are pummelling sides for good spells yet we aren't putting them away.

[KRS]

It's quite simple for me...we aren't clinical enough in front of goal so RDM needs to drill finishing into them in training. We'd be way up the league if we'd put away some of the chances we've been creating in the last 6 games.

[Meanwood Villa]

Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but thought it was worth mentioning the minute's applause on 23 minutes for the villa fan who lost his battle with cancer aged 24. Have to admit I didn't know what it was about until afterwards

Likewise CJ - feel terrible now as I had presumed it was a bizarre recognition of 9/11 or a mistimed Dalian appreciation. I'll make a donation to Cancer Research today by means of an apology to the Villa fans family.

Great username, did you serve on the Danville train?

[Deano's Mullet]

We are a point better off than at the same time in 87-88 and seventh game is where we started our run towards promotion. Let's hope history repeats itself.

[ktvillan]

We won't hammer anyone if we stop attacking when we go into a one goal lead.

Good point Percy - I was saying we should get back on the attack and not sit back at the exact moment the guy started his run for Forest's second goal.  We were murdering them going forward but looked vulnerable the minute we took the foot off the gas.

[john e]

Forest came for a point and got it...it seemed every time we got a head of steam on the Forest goals they would find away to use their frustrating time wasting tactics to slow us down, so although far from great it looks like we are getting better with each game and I believe we will thump someone real soon.

UTV
The Doc

must admit there were times yesterday I thought Forest had turned into Wimbledon crazy gang era,
 they were cynical, time wasting, I thought trying to rile Ayew the whole match to get him sent off, which is fair enough to a point but not what you would expect from a Forest side

Brian Clough would not approve

[john e]

We won't hammer anyone if we stop attacking when we go into a one goal lead.

and also the best way of seeing a match out is by going two or more goals up on them

I'm not sure we are capable of shutting up shop no matter how many defensive players we have on the pitch

[ChicagoLion]

I keep reading we are going to batter, hammer thump someone soon.
This is not the point, we need to get a team with a winning mentality over a long period of games.
Putting 4 past someone only to drop points the next game is not going to get us out of this league.
I don't think this set up has the ability to do that because we are to vulnerable defensively.
Play offs is the most we can hope for.

[AVH87]

I don't think we were as dominant as people are making out over the whole game.

First half was an awful spectacle, took us 39 mins to have a shot on target. We came close through McCormack and Kodjia but that was it in the whole half.

Second half their long-ranger out of nothing rocked us, as we had started brightly, and bringing Gestede on caused panic in their defence, we got well on top and in front in no time. Difficult to praise RDM for that attacking sub though when he had nearly 15 minutes to change it but left it too late to sure up the midfield, and cost us a vital 2 points.

Clearly we need to improve in CDM and defence as we have the attacking players to score 2-3 a game. Lets hope Jedinak makes the difference.

[Ian.]

We are a point better off than at the same time in 87-88 and seventh game is where we started our run towards promotion. Let's hope history repeats itself.

I'm getting more and more confident it will click into place. Knowing what you have said and also Burnley's form last season started around Christmas I've put a punt on Bet 365 for a top two finish.

[old man villa fan]

We won't hammer anyone if we stop attacking when we go into a one goal lead.

and also the best way of seeing a match out is by going two or more goals up on them

I'm not sure we are capable of shutting up shop no matter how many defensive players we have on the pitch

Your second point hits the nail on the head.  We have a team of what are essentially very good Championship players.  Shutting up shop is not easy when you are not together as a team that have played week in week out with each other.  From some comments, it reads as though we have a team of PL quality players.  They are not, they will make mistakes and they will miss chances.

We created 26 shots at goal but too many of those were from individually created opportunities.  Of the chances we created, how many were created from central midfield.  We didn't win that game because we didn't capitalise on dominance of possession which was around 65% in the 1st half.  How many times did Westwood, at best, pass to a player in no better position than himself and, at worse, to a player in a worse position.  There can be no clearer example of a pass the buck player.

[Dave Javu]

Gollini must have been knackered having to play in two positions at once:



Either that or Dr. Tone has perfected a cloning technique.

[Jimbo]

I keep reading we are going to batter, hammer thump someone soon.
This is not the point, we need to get a team with a winning mentality over a long period of games.
Putting 4 past someone only to drop points the next game is not going to get us out of this league.
I don't think this set up has the ability to do that because we are to vulnerable defensively.
Play offs is the most we can hope for.

Pretty soon, we're going to grind a massive 1-nil out of someone. In some ways it'll be better for us than a 5-nil tonking. There will be no cause for over-confidence or arrogance. We will have learned the great value of grinding out a result, of having earned it the hard and ugly way. That's what we'll need to do time and time again in this league if we're to have any hopes of going up automatically.