Derby County v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

I saw Westwood give the ball away with  a simple pass just before RM got the yellow card and then he got caught in possession resulting in giving a free kick away which Ince nearly scored. He might have worked his nuts off but he isnt good enough to start at this level in our team.  The sooner we get the two midfielders in the team Jedi and tish the better and need to sign another one too before september.

[pbavfckuwait]

At the back we are looking more solid, but we need an injection of pace to stretch teams, whether that pace comes from a speedster or just a midfield player who creates that pace with his vision and oh for the much required by all goal scorer.
Also a game plan that lasts 90 minutes, not just 45 to 60 minutes.

[robbo1874]

We need a finished article Tony Daley type signing. Not sure who would foot the bill, but a pacey winger who can get behind and deliver, or cut in and shoot is what we're lacking.

[brian green]

We have one Robbo in Rushian Hepburn Murphy but he is not being given game time.  We are crying out for pace up front but when forced to substitute an extremely slow front man we brought on an even slower one.  A little bit of criticism of the management for Blackism but mostly our problems continue to flow from the sub standard squad that accrued three wins and seventeen points last season.  We need more better players, it is as simple as that.  Our future stands or falls on the depth of Tony's pockets.

[Hookeysmith]

Frustrating that we are not scoring when on top in games but pleased that clearly we are starting to get the solid Base right of being difficult to beat. As many have said the final third of the pitch is now needing an overall and is desperate for some pace and mobility.
Progress is happening and we can't loose sight of just how shit we were last year.

Not sure why RHM not getting on bench and at present not seeing anything in Green

[sickbeggar]

Seemed a decent result to me. The team has been together 5 minutes and you need time to develop an understanding. This league is not going to be a stroll in the park whatever some believe so i'd settle for a point away. It's a solid start results wise so far and considering the complete mess we were 3 months ago definite progress.

[Nunkin1965]

Well as is commonly said. The table doesn't lie and mid table is the perfect position for us at the mo. We're totally average. A shame Gestede got injured as he's been making progress but at the moment God we're ordinary as a team.

But thats an improvement and it will turn round but I'm not sure it's going to be this season.

[sickbeggar]

Think we have to wait till RDM has finished his surgery and for the new players to find their feet. If we're still mid-table come early december then thats one thing but atm it much too early to tell

[OzVilla]

We've got some way to improve but I think we will. Everyone seems to be beating each other so it's not like teams are stealing a march on us early doors.

I dont see Huddersfield getting promoted anytime soon for instance.

We look fairly solid at the back which considering the last few years is already a small achievement in itself

[Chris Smith]

Well as is commonly said. The table doesn't lie and mid table is the perfect position for us at the mo. We're totally average. A shame Gestede got injured as he's been making progress but at the moment God we're ordinary as a team.

But thats an improvement and it will turn round but I'm not sure it's going to be this season.

After only 4 games of course the table lies. It is like trying to predict the winner of a marathon after the first mile.

It will take a few more weeks for this league to settle down. There is still business to be done in the window for a lot of teams and then time for those players to become integrated, I recon it will be October/November before we get an idea of where we stand. As it is we have been competitive in all of the games we have played and our defence in particular is looking strong which gives me cause to think that the manager knows what he is doing.

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree with Chris, in a season with so many games the table means absolutely nothing after four games.

[LeeB]

I agree with Chris, in a season with so many games the table means absolutely nothing after four games.

I absolutely hate that phrase "the table never lies"

It lies every week until the end of the final game, as that is the only one that matters.

[in exile]

Sorry if it's already been said but we can not continue to carry the likes of Gardner, Westwood, Kozak any further before it seriously bites us in the ass

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

We have one Robbo in Rushian Hepburn Murphy but he is not being given game time.  We are crying out for pace up front but when forced to substitute an extremely slow front man we brought on an even slower one.  A little bit of criticism of the management for Blackism but mostly our problems continue to flow from the sub standard squad that accrued three wins and seventeen points last season.  We need more better players, it is as simple as that.  Our future stands or falls on the depth of Tony's pockets.

Couldn't agree more Brian...RHM looked red hot in pre-season and he's got the pace we are clearly lacking up front.
Thought we were lightweight in midfield again - same as Wednesday and Huddersfield games - looking outnumbered at times. Jedinak to the rescue!?

Defence pretty solid except for Cissokho, Gardner not good enough, Westwood ok today, Jack worked hard, Kozak pretty poor.

I'd like to see Tish and Jedi start v Bristol and RHM at least on the bench.

Great turn out by how ever many of us there were.
Proud to be a Villa(i)n!

[Lastfootstamper]

A point away at a "proper" Championship side with a midfield of Westwood and Gardner strikes me as a bit of an achievement.

BG, it would be good to see RHM playing, but I reluctantly have to agree with RDM at the moment, insomuch as until such time as our midfield starts utterly dominating and stamping itself upon this division, we have to play with a "big man up top", it's just a shame our choices are mind-numbingly slow! Hopefully Jedinak is the man to change that, allowing us to play Ayew or McCormack, even RHM, as the centre-forward.

A question for those that've watched him; André Green, what position did he play coming through the junior sides? Was he just a winger, did he ever play fullback, or look like he could play there?