Luton Town v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[levico]

I agree with you Mr U.  Both your previous post that RDM is going exactly the same way as his predecessors and that I truly don't know where we go from here.  What you saw last night we have been seeing for years.  Forget Doncaster and Bradford, go back to Notts County, at home.  We came within a whisker of getting dumped out that night.  It was only Sherwood leaving Traore on as a sacrificial offering to be chopped down every time he got the ball that took us to extra time that night.

There is a shocking slow motion horribleness about the way we become paralysed by the fear of defeat.  It is like a stoat hypnotising a terrified rabbit.

In my mind it has become so bad we are like an oil well fire.  We need a Red Adair.  We need strong, unflinching management that is fully aware how bad some of our players are.  I don't like the policy of every player being given a clean slate.  The 17 points we amassed last season is the incontrovertible evidence of how bad we were but we get in RDM and Clarke and Bond and they say we will be the best judge of what needs doing.  The result?  Micah Richards is made captain and allowed to play centre back.  It is a classic example of the attitude of " you are only the supporters. What the fuck do you know?"

The voice of reason as usual, Brian.

Totally agree. I thought this new regime was all about listening to and understanding the concerns of fans. Appointing Richards as captain last night confirmed that they may be listening but they are not understanding.

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Pearson hasn't signed a single player at perennial bottles Derby. Likely because he wants to look at the squad for himself and see how they get on before deciding where needs strengthening.

[lukey27]

The toxic and rotten elements of this club need to be eradicated before we can move on.

Criticising Gardner or Baker for not being good enough is the very least of our worries. We have players there who are deluded, disruptive influences without getting into the fact they are also shit at their job.

Okore is a bloke who refused to be on the bench last year, thinks he's too good for us. As does Richards, Bacuna, Cissokho, Hutton, Lescott, Gabby. The list is endless.

We have gaping holes in the centre of our defence and midfield.

Beggars can't be choosers, if Jedinak and Ledley are available from Palace get them in. They're proper pros and better than what we've got. We need to start getting some of these guys as far away from the first team squad as possible.

[in exile]

Thought Jack was good

So did I
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Agree, showed touches of claas amongst the dross.

WHOOSH!

[ian c.]

Piss poor performance from the point they scored.  I hope that RDM just needed to see this for himself and will learn from it.

I don't think we have a midfield 2 that can cope if we play 4 attack minded players beside and in front of them.

[Chris Jameson]

If Amavi was the best left back in Europe the season prior to us signing him I can only assume not many teams played with a left back.

[rob_bridge]

Piss poor performance from the point they scored.  I hope that RDM just needed to see this for himself and will learn from it.

I don't think we have a midfield 2 that can cope if we play 4 attack minded players beside and in front of them.

A midfield of 2 and 4 attack minded players. Sounds like a formation that was used about 20 years ago.

[sirlordbaltimore]

When the team sheet was announced, apart from the utter shock of seeing Richards name on there (never mind the captain thing) I thought this looks a decent side.

It didn't really take too long for me to have doubts though as for all our fannying about in the first 30-35 minutes we didn't really look a 'unit' to me.

The less said about the ridiculous half time substitutions and the second half performance the better.

Bunn 6 - didn't do a lot, but caught him shouting a few times which made him the only one so gets 6/10

Amavi 5 - looked rusty as expected, thought he had some decent moments, usually of the non defensive variety

Baker 6 - alright, apart from being sucked out for their first leaving a huge space behind him

Okore 4 - first half not too bad second half looked a broken player at times. not helped by being put on the left side i'm sure. will he ever recover his form? not sure

Richards 2 - first half got forward ok but yet again did nothing of note in his defensive role. the throw in and mugging himself off on the touch line before conceding a throw was proper comical. second half was right up there with the worst defensive displays i've ever seen from a Villa centre back. and considering probably 7 of the other 9 were also from him that's saying something. i truly hate this bloke as a footballer, in fact i'm finding it increasingly hard to even understand how he's got to 28 and still be employed as one. he has ZERO awarness of where he's supposed to be or that he's even part of a defensive unit to my eyes. he's absolutely SHOCKINGLY bad. he was last season, and he still is. if anyone can tell me i'm wrong then i'm all ears

Hutton 2 - same old fucking garbage from a player i'd rank right alongside Richards in the 'how the fuck is he a professional footballer' stakes. utter turd

Grealish 5 - looks good, flounces about threatening to deliver something yet rarely does. he really needs to kick on this season and this display did nothing to convince me he will. plays too safe, never takes a gamble that you need to be a great player

Gardner 5 - very lightweight and cannot play in a midfield two. he's one of those players i really want to see make the grade but the last two matches have really shown he's probably not cut out to do it in a Villa shirt. i did think he played FAR better alongside Westwood in the Boro friendly though

Tshibola 5 - some decent signs, some worrying signs. too early to call of course but again doesn't look like one that can play in a middle two to me. which begs the question why keep trying this middle two ?

Green 5 - expected more to be honest, didn't really look like he had the belief to me. didn't see any fire in his belly either. still early days though of course and i think he can probably develop into a good squad player this season

Ayew 5 - i thought he worked quite hard at times, good determination for his goal as well. but over all not a great performance

McCormack 5 - apart from set pieces didn't really see much of him at all. not that he got any service mind

Gestede 2 - did absolutely nothing and should join Hutton and Richards on the rag n bone mans cart out of Bodymoor this morning

RDM - 5 brave/decent starting eleven on paper, but completely LUDICROUS half time subs

[dave shelley]

I'd give Richards 1/10, and that for turning up to catch the bus on time.

[sid1964]

What surprised me was in the 2nd half how unfit, the likes of Richards /Okore looked

Grealish did some okay things on the ball, but he needs to get used to being kicked and not getting the free kick, in the Championship he wont have time to be thinking he is a big time charlie

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Among the many irritants last night, the Sky commentators kept calling our new midfielder "Tishbola" all the way through.

The commentator for the Sheffield Wednesday game pronounced it that way and Mat Kendrick in the Mail said: "He often just goes by the name of Tish, but his surname in full in pronounced Tish-Bowl-a."

[Five Villa Tattoos]

I'd give Richards 1/10, and that for turning up to catch the bus on time.

There's no actual proof that he did turn up on time so this could in fact be a zero.

[Richard E]

Among the many irritants last night, the Sky commentators kept calling our new midfielder "Tishbola" all the way through.

The commentator for the Sheffield Wednesday game pronounced it that way and Mat Kendrick in the Mail said: "He often just goes by the name of Tish, but his surname in full in pronounced Tish-Bowl-a."

Thanks - I can go back to just being irritated by the appalling performance now.

[Chris Jameson]

Among the many irritants last night, the Sky commentators kept calling our new midfielder "Tishbola" all the way through.

The commentator for the Sheffield Wednesday game pronounced it that way and Mat Kendrick in the Mail said: "He often just goes by the name of Tish, but his surname in full in pronounced Tish-Bowl-a."

I don't like him, seems unfair but I just keep getting "Bohemian Rhapsody" in my head everytime I see his name. Sell him now.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I must admit i pronounce it Tish-bola as well. That's right isn't it ?