Luton Town v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[danno]

I did not understand either of the half time subs at all.
Half time you get them in and tell them to keep moving the ball quickly as that's when we looked dangerous
and not get sucked into scrappy personal battles.

Instead we remove a forward making intelligent runs for a human statue, and rearrange our already shaky backline
and manage to make it worse.

Our players are admittedly all levels of inept, but RDM didn't help them tonight.

'All levels of inept' is a very harsh phrase and I wish I could have a go you for using it. But sadly you are right. Maybe we should appoint Glenn Hoddle as manager and he could tell us what we have all done in a previous life to deserve this.

He's probably still somewhere in France pondering the Iceland result, and re watching a highlight reel of Lallana's "cute" passes that didn't quite come off.

[Damo70]

I did not understand either of the half time subs at all.
Half time you get them in and tell them to keep moving the ball quickly as that's when we looked dangerous
and not get sucked into scrappy personal battles.

Instead we remove a forward making intelligent runs for a human statue, and rearrange our already shaky backline
and manage to make it worse.

Our players are admittedly all levels of inept, but RDM didn't help them tonight.

'All levels of inept' is a very harsh phrase and I wish I could have a go you for using it. But sadly you are right. Maybe we should appoint Glenn Hoddle as manager and he could tell us what we have all done in a previous life to deserve this.

He's probably still somewhere in France pondering the Iceland result, and re watching a highlight reel of Lallana's "cute" passes that didn't quite come off.

I'm not saying Glenn loves himself but right now he is probably sitting in a hotel bar in Dubai with David O'Leary whilst they both discuss why the two Manchester clubs have appointed losers like Mourinho and Guardiola while they were both available.

[villadelph]

Just got home from work unaware of the result. I watch the replay and it's hard not to be fuming. After 20 minutes I figured we would cruise to a lopsided win.

I just can't take this anymore. I can't lose anymore. It's too hard to watch.

[Axl Rose]

Losing to Luton. Oh dear.

I feel like a stuck record, but christ, I despise the mere sight of some of our players.

There's Richards, all chest puffed out-dick.

Okore-always looks like a balloon in agony. Ready to burst.

Hutton-crap tattooed moron. No skill whatsoever.

Gardner-a ready to drool, shit version of his already shit brother.

I fucking hate some of our players. Theyre abysmal. I hope they're absolutely torn to shreds by the fans on Saturday. Abused, ridiculed. It's counter productive apparently. Well, fucking earn your support you piss flaps.

Nik, I have no idea how you manage to motivate yourself to watch this shite at 3-4am in Japan

Me neither, Paul. I've been doing it for near on 9 years now. And there's going to be more of it with us being in the Championship.

Fortunately, the university term is done for the summer, so now at 11:30am, I have a day off. I can come on here and at least feel strange comfort in the fact that I'm not the only one in pain/exasperation at last night's result.

I hope you're having a good summer, mate. If you're ever out in Tokyo, give me a shout!

[Axl Rose]

Richards as captain. I trust you've learned your lesson there RDM you fool.

I didn't realise this until now. What an arsehole, Richards is.

Why Di Matteo, why?

[mr underhill]

RDM will go the way of all his immediate predecessors. Last night we plumbed new depths of ineptness. As if competing in the first round wasn't ignominious enough we then loose deservedly to the mighty Luton Town! I had to turn off  the Talkshite commentary last night, not so much because we were loosing , but for  the undisguised distain in which the commentators held us. We are a total shambles and I am struggling to see exactly where we go from here. I guess the immediate aftermath is that anyone considering joining us won't. And who can blame them?

[pbavfckuwait]

I am not sure if it was a certain amount arrogance on our side, or just a blindness, but we thought these so called players were just poor premier league players and dropping down and getting rid of what we could( was never going to be easy without giving them away), but we would be ok.
 No the ones and we all know who they are are just crap footballers full stop at whatever level, they have the mentality of prima donnas, they think they are good as long as they are winning, when they need to roll their sleeves up and get stuck in there fucked, there is not one player from last year I would not get rid off if we have the chance, including Ayew, as stated we thought they were just poor prem players, we were wrong they are poor full stop and should not be wearing the shirt of Aston Villa Football Club.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Positives :

- we now can focus on the league. Seriously. It is a league with a LOT of games to be played, I have not yet given up on us winning it. RDM intends for us to have a smaller squad and so less cup games is fine.

- decent first half. Seriously, I know we have lost two games this week but at times we looked alright, good even. Its just that our bad is REALLY bad and it is no longer in spurts, once we get bad we just do not come back.

- RDM know sees exactly what he is dealing with and can address it, I trust him, Clarke and the coaching team to improve in the weeks ahead, I really do.

- Xia understands (probably already did) that we will need to spend to get out of this league.

Negatives :

- many of our players need to be replaced, there is no delicate way of putting it. Some it was obvious already, some only obvious if you had seen them play last season (like Gardener), but now we all know.

- the culture of failure is still here. I have no idea how to get rid of this but it is painful. Everyone here knows the signs, the players look nervous, then lazy, then accident prone and its all over.

- fans interest. This one is purely anecdotal but I sense a decent portion of fans are pretty close to bailing. I mean, how much can we take? I am out of words to describe just how ghastly watching this team lose week after week is but it grinds you down you know? I dont know what the tipping point is when clubs start to hemmorage fans but we have got to be close. It is a minor miracle the level of support we currently have, we are pushing our luck thinking fans will stick around for another season of it.

Oh and grats to Luton Town. It cannot be easy supporting such a historied yet losing club over recent years. A good day for them that was well deserved. I hope they go on to do well in the competition.

[Ron Manager]

Why was Baker subbed at half time? He appeared to have recovered from his problem at the corner.Richards was doing OK at right back but at centre back with Okore a disaster was waiting to happen.

It did!!

[Matt C]

Watching it back now - why I'm doing it to myself I don't know - aside from the ineptitude/awfulness we seem to be strolling around and treating it like a friendly. Zero urgency and intensity whereas Luton, once they got a little encouragement, are 'giving it a right go' as a certain ex-manager would say. I get the sense they thought this would be easy which is an alarming trait given the season we're in for.

[mr underhill]

it sounds melodramatic I know, but I really don't know where we go from here. We can't even give a fourth division club a game.

[Edvard Remberg]

Probably best that they showed Tony/RDM early how shit they are, they still have weeks to get rid and replace

[Bottom Right 89]

It feels like another gigantic kick in the balls this morning. All I keep picturing in my head is that lame own goal by Okore and the look of despair on his face. Going to be a tough day at work, I hope RDM has put on double training for last nights squad.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

It feels like another gigantic kick in the balls this morning. All I keep picturing in my head is that lame own goal by Okore and the look of despair on his face. Going to be a tough day at work, I hope RDM has put on double training for last nights squad.

to be honest ive got a horrible feeling that rdm is as clueless as the players

[CT]

it sounds melodramatic I know, but I really don't know where we go from here. We can't even give a fourth division club a game.

Same for me too. We can't even turn round and say they were lucky, or on any other day we'd have won easily.

We've been dicked by a Fourth Division side. We now have a side two leagues higher coming to VP on Saturday, a side who will be just as motivated and done their homework just as Luton clearly did. A side who should, on paper, be much better than Luton.

The Luton players said afterwards how brittle we are.

We need a couple of wins for sure, I'm just hoping it doesn't take until March to get them.