Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[wittonwarrior]

Bacuna was at times one of our better players out there.  it has got to be frustrating playing in front of Hutton, who again played like an ale house footballer. 

Thought Ayew run his socks off, but just couldn't find the final ball. 

If McCormack's chance had been buried we would be all singing/dancing  on here tonight.  In truth we probably didn't do enough to win.  The Championship is everything that we were warned about 110 miles  per hour (Saunders would love that), with limited skill as compared to much of the premiership.

Just feel at 23:12 on a Sunday night very frustrated.

[CT]

Just got back. Not going to go too deep into things even to say, we definitely didn't deserve to lose that.

We have a Captain, a proper captain.

Until Amavi is fit, please play Joe Bennett at LB, because AC is fucking hopeless.

...and Rudy Gestede, being bang average is one thing, not moving your fucking lazy arse, or even braking sweat is quite another.

[Meanwood Villa]

Thought we played OK today, even well at times in the second half. We always seem to find a way to lose though. Nonetheless, think the championship shouldn't hold too many fears once we hit our stride. He should start Grealish ahead of Gardner for a start.

[castlefields_villan]

Oh and yes - well done (again) to the 5,000 or so that were there today, your support, as ever, was superb, we heard you loud and clear on the tv.

[Percy McCarthy]

Was denied entry due to me apparently being intoxicated. I don't drink as I'm  on
 my medication.I do appear a bit wobley at times due to 200mg of sertraline.
Stewardess couldn't give a toss and confiscated my ticket.
Police intervened and advised me to leave the area. I tried to explain but two separate coppers couldn't give a fuck.
It's not like Yorkshire has a reputation for treating fans like shit is it?

What a bunch of absolute c****. Sorry to hear that mate, I hope you're going to complain, and I hope you get compensated for such treatment.

I have E-mailed Wednesday and will see what happens. Thanks for your reply Percy.

My pleasure mate, good luck with it.

[Percy McCarthy]

About three days ago I became 'friends' on Facebook with a lad with whom I went to primary and secondary school. He used to live a couple of doors from our house on Chelmsley Wood. I hadn't seen him since 1982 thereabouts.

I got my first message from him today, 34 years after I last spoke to him: he commented on my 'status' pointing out the I was cheering on the Villa boys at a local bar.

It read 'Boing Boing!'

Who is it mate? Next time I'm coming home from the Night Owl I'll go round and bounce a house tick off his windows. How's that for boing boing?

[KRS]

Not much to add to what has been said already...first half was poor, but deserved at least a draw based on second half domination...and conceding the goal due to yet another defensive error so late was just predictably typical.

Gestede is a waste of space...its like playing with 10 men with him on the pitch. I'd like to see him sold, but I doubt it will happen so we'll just have to hope he can contribute in some way this season...or send him out on loan to a team that would cross the ball to him.

Any team with Bacuna, Westwood, Gestede, Cissokho, Gardner and Hutton is going to struggle. We simply can't afford to carry so many poor players if we expect to get results this season. Hopefully the majority of these will be shipped out or replacements come in so they aren't first choice on the team sheet.

[Brend'Watkins]

I wish we'd get out of this mentality of passing back to our keeper so much too. They're going to make a mistake because goalkeepers can't play football.

Was saying this at the game. Not so much about keepers not being able to play football but more that even with the pointless passing sideways passing it back and then sideways and back and sideways it still ends up with a hoof. So why not just hoof it first. This sideways passing from the back serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.  We're not anywhere near good enough to pass the ball out of defence when chased down so why bother?

[ROBBO]

Gestede is not going to get goals without wingers and we don't have any, he is one dimensional and we lose out because he puts no pressure on defences. For all waiting to see Gardner back in the side it was an eye opener, far too slow. Agree with most that has been said but the defeat will spur the owner to get players in.

[paul_e]

What I will say about Gardner is that Delph always looked really short on pace for a few games but once he got a run in the side he grew into it, that same may happen here so I'd give him a few more games before dismissing him completely.

[tomd2103]

Not much to add to what has been said already...first half was poor, but deserved at least a draw based on second half domination...and conceding the goal due to yet another defensive error so late was just predictably typical.

Gestede is a waste of space...its like playing with 10 men with him on the pitch. I'd like to see him sold, but I doubt it will happen so we'll just have to hope he can contribute in some way this season...or send him out on loan to a team that would cross the ball to him.

Any team with Bacuna, Westwood, Gestede, Cissokho, Gardner and Hutton is going to struggle. We simply can't afford to carry so many poor players if we expect to get results this season. Hopefully the majority of these will be shipped out or replacements come in so they aren't first choice on the team sheet.

Agree with most of this.  Although the kick by Gollini was a poor one, it was still a major stroke of luck that Elphick flicked it into their player and it fell to him without him having to break his stride. 

I agree with your assessment of the players who need to go.  Hutton and Cissokho were awful, Baker looked clumsy, Westwood was weak and slow, Gardner was just slow, Bacuna was anonymous and Gestede's touch was awful.

[Pat McMahon]

I wish we'd get out of this mentality of passing back to our keeper so much too. They're going to make a mistake because goalkeepers can't play football.

Was saying this at the game. Not so much about keepers not being able to play football but more that even with the pointless passing sideways passing it back and then sideways and back and sideways it still ends up with a hoof. So why not just hoof it first. This sideways passing from the back serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.  We're not anywhere near good enough to pass the ball out of defence when chased down so why bother?

I read an interview wiith Gary Cahill in the summer where he was basically saying that English fans don't appreciate this passing the ball around at the back but that it is frequently used to give players a few seconds to catch their breath and take a rest.

I have always found it weird when defenders pass the ball back 30m for the keeper to shell it say 60m, when the defender could have put it in the same spot even with their weaker foot.

[PeterWithesShin]

Bacuna put in a number of good crosses and had a shot just over the bar. I really don't get why people keep saying he was shit/anonymous? He wasn't brilliant and he wasn't shit, he was decent.

[tomd2103]

Bacuna was at times one of our better players out there.  it has got to be frustrating playing in front of Hutton, who again played like an ale house footballer. 

Thought Ayew run his socks off, but just couldn't find the final ball. 

If McCormack's chance had been buried we would be all singing/dancing  on here tonight.  In truth we probably didn't do enough to win.  The Championship is everything that we were warned about 110 miles  per hour (Saunders would love that), with limited skill as compared to much of the premiership.

Just feel at 23:12 on a Sunday night very frustrated.

Sorry, just didn't see that.  He was totally anonymous in the first half and hardly offered anything in the second.  Green looked far more lively when he came on.   Bacuna, Westwood, Baker etc. looked what they are - bang average Championship players who should have been nowhere near a top flight side.

[Damo70]

Bacuna was at times one of our better players out there.  it has got to be frustrating playing in front of Hutton, who again played like an ale house footballer. 

Thought Ayew run his socks off, but just couldn't find the final ball. 

If McCormack's chance had been buried we would be all singing/dancing  on here tonight.  In truth we probably didn't do enough to win.  The Championship is everything that we were warned about 110 miles  per hour (Saunders would love that), with limited skill as compared to much of the premiership.

Just feel at 23:12 on a Sunday night very frustrated.

Sorry, just didn't see that.  He was totally anonymous in the first half and hardly offered anything in the second.  Green looked far more lively when he came on.   Bacuna, Westwood, Baker etc. looked what they are - bang average Championship players who should have been nowhere near a top flight side.

Well maybe they have found there level now because as it stands they aren't anywhere near a top flight side. Horses for courses hopefully. Steve Sims and David Hunt to get you up and then Derek Mountfield and Gordon Cowans to kick on.