Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[AV89]

Did people think that the Wednesday players ability on the ball was generally superior to ours?  The way they controlled it, laid it off, and generally moved it about the field.  Some of our players seemed to often never completely have control of it even when it was at their feet.

They've been together for a good 12 months to be fair.  They obviously know each others job well and are suited to how they want to play.

Hopefully as we get further into the season that well become the case for us.  Yes I'm disappointed to come away with nothing, and its hard for me to argue that we should be patient, given how shit we've been for six years in a row.  However,  I'm more positive about our prospects now than I was a week ago.

[Broughty-Villian]

If we had won or took a point, it would have papered over the cracks. It showed RDM and Clarke exactly what is needed. they have 3 more weeks to get at least three more first team players in. first game, and a loooong way to go in this league.

[PaulWinch again]

Did people think that the Wednesday players ability on the ball was generally superior to ours?  The way they controlled it, laid it off, and generally moved it about the field.  Some of our players seemed to often never completely have control of it even when it was at their feet.

I think it's a confidence issue, as we grew into the game we were superior.

[Rudy65]

There was a point in the second half when we had a corner and Bacuna was shown on the telly looking confused and you could hear a chant of 'you're fucking shite' or something going on. Please tell me this wasn't from our own (loosely speaking of course) supporters ? It was right in front of our end hence the question.

I don't like the bloke, but he was far from the worst out there today to give him his due.

It was aimed at Bacuna and he knew it

[VillaAlways]

On 75 minutes I said regardless of the result  I feel we will be there or thereabouts

[PaulWinch again]

There was a point in the second half when we had a corner and Bacuna was shown on the telly looking confused and you could hear a chant of 'you're fucking shite' or something going on. Please tell me this wasn't from our own (loosely speaking of course) supporters ? It was right in front of our end hence the question.

I don't like the bloke, but he was far from the worst out there today to give him his due.

It was aimed at Bacuna and he knew it

If that's the case it's counter productive and fucking stupid.

[Five Villa Tattoos]

Was denied entry due to me apparently being intoxicated. I don't drink as I'm  on
 my medication.I do appear a bit wobley at times due to 200mg of sertraline.
Stewardess couldn't give a toss and confiscated my ticket.
Police intervened and advised me to leave the area. I tried to explain but two separate coppers couldn't give a fuck.
It's not like Yorkshire has a reputation for treating fans like shit is it?
[/quote

What a bunch of absolute c****. Sorry to hear that mate, I hope you're going to complain, and I hope you get compensated for such treatment.

I have E-mailed Wednesday and will see what happens. Thanks for your reply Percy.

[four fornicholl]

There was a point in the second half when we had a corner and Bacuna was shown on the telly looking confused and you could hear a chant of 'you're fucking shite' or something going on. Please tell me this wasn't from our own (loosely speaking of course) supporters ? It was right in front of our end hence the question.

I don't like the bloke, but he was far from the worst out there today to give him his due.

Don't know if its been  mentioned but Sky turned the volume down, right about then?

It was aimed at Bacuna and he knew it

[Mister E]

McCormack played ok, apart from the 1-on-1.
Bacuna was rubbish first half; better second.
I thought Hutton played well ....

Their player got a good block on that shot. He's been injured you gotta give him a chance. McCormack will score goals

I wasn't criticising McC. I thought he did OK.

[Mister E]

There was a point in the second half when we had a corner and Bacuna was shown on the telly looking confused and you could hear a chant of 'you're fucking shite' or something going on. Please tell me this wasn't from our own (loosely speaking of course) supporters ? It was right in front of our end hence the question.

I don't like the bloke, but he was far from the worst out there today to give him his due.

Don't know if its been  mentioned but Sky turned the volume down, right about then?

It was aimed at Bacuna and he knew it

I was there and didn't hear that.

[Matt Collins]

I heard a lot of that chant. I thought it was Wednesday singing at us. Not us at our own player. Especially when he was actually starting to play quite well!

Do want better in there though. But at least he can cross unlike cissokho and Hutton

[adrenachrome]

The midfield isn't the problem no matter how many times it gets called

Sorry, but in my opinion you are incorrect

The midfield is definitely the problem and has been for some time. Lack of movement in attack and poor fullbacks doesn't help. But there is very little leadership, guile or nous in that midfield. Less so even than last season with the sale of Gana, and he was no great shakes. We desperately need a central midfielder who can control the game, crucially leading in terms of both tempo and movement. We haven't had that since Stan and before him Barry.

To clarify, our midfield look poor because they get totally overloaded and that happens mainly because teams trust their fullbacks to have the beating of ours at both ends.  In this game we got better in midfield when we pushed Hutton and Cissokho forward and made their fullbacks hold their position but it didn't lead to chance because both of them have to take 5-6 touches and stop 2-3 times before they pass inside or cross and by then the defence are all lined up and ready to deal ith the threat.  If either of them could operate at pace with the ball then we'd have won easily today.

You could equally argue that the full backs look bad because they are overloaded and got no support from the wide players in front of them. This was probably true in the case Ally Ciss, who got no support whatsoever from Ayew.

Systemic analyses are fun and all, but we just need more decent players and a midfield which can at least partially control their area of competence.

[Dominic22]

I know slightly off topic, but that was the loudest PA I have ever heard, dangerously loud we all have blinding headaches after the game.

Oh and a missed opportunity for at least a point that puts unneeded pressure on next week

[Matt C]

Annoying to lose it late but overall not too distraught - I thought there were some green shoots to be seen and that coupled with the belief our squad will look vastly different by the end of the month; I think we'll be OK.

[Des Little]

I heard a lot of that chant. I thought it was Wednesday singing at us. Not us at our own player. Especially when he was actually starting to play quite well!

Do want better in there though. But at least he can cross unlike cissokho and Hutton

Definitely the Wednesday fans in the block nearest the away end. They were singing it most of the second half, bless 'em