Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[dave shelley]

Gotta love how Bacuna and Westwood get slaughtered as usual despite Gardner being comfortably the worst player on either side and both, Bacuna especially, were involved in nearly everything good we did in attack.

It's a mindset.  Something I'm guilty of myself sometimes, you see a player you think is no good and you spend your time watching for the slightest little mistake and then jump on it.  Anything positive from the player gets overlooked because of said intense dislike.  I know Bacuna and Westwood are poor players but we're stuck with them for the moment, but that mindset has to change, it's counterproductive.

[PaulWinch again]

Gotta love how Bacuna and Westwood get slaughtered as usual despite Gardner being comfortably the worst player on either side and both, Bacuna especially, were involved in nearly everything good we did in attack.

I thought Gardner was much much worse than Westwood. Tshibola looked like he could be good if he cuts out careless mistakes.

[supertom]

I wish we'd get out of this mentality of passing back to our keeper so much too. They're going to make a mistake because goalkeepers can't play football.

[myf]

No wins in 6 months? I just find it ridiculous we always seem to find a way of losing. Another costly error and by one of the newbies.

A draw today would have set us up nicely

[taylorsworkrate]

Need a proper centre forward for Ross and Ayew to play off. Gestede just isn't acceptable.

Cissokho needs to fuck the fuck off. Gardner was poor and Westwood was mediocre (I agree Paul that he didn't do much wrong, but we are Aston Villa, we shouldn't settle for players who merely don't do much wrong)

Bacuna actually played quite well in the second half after being nowhere in the first.

Elphick looked good and a leader.

[in exile]

The midfield isn't the problem no matter how many times it gets called

Sorry, but in my opinion you are incorrect

[Virgil Caine]

When will we learn that pissing around in front of our own penalty box just raises the chances of making stupid errors, for the one that we conceded today I dont blame Gollini 100%- it should have been in the opposition half 30 seconds before. Once again Villa snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory. On a more positive side I do see two or three players making a real positive difference to this side but one should be a centre forward who can control the ball and hold up play to bring other players in.

[Tuscans]

The midfield isn't the problem no matter how many times it gets called

Sorry, but in my opinion you are incorrect

Has to be a wind up, just has to be!!

[brian green]

It's the curse of the clean slate.  We knew what our problems are last Christmas.  Useless full backs, paperweight, ineffective midfield and lack of goals from our "strikers".  But here comes a new owner, and a new manager and new coaching staff so everybody gets a clean slate.  We play a few games, expose all the old failings and the rubbish players are identified.  Problem is it's nearly Christmas again.

[Jimbo]

How can Cissokho be a footballer? How? The bloke simply can't control a football. It's like an owl pretending to be a fish.

[PeterWithesShin]

I wish we'd get out of this mentality of passing back to our keeper so much too. They're going to make a mistake because goalkeepers can't play football.

Yep, there were a few times we played it back in tight positions, no matter how good your keeper is with his feet, every player on the planet miskicks occasionally so it's just asking for trouble.

[AV89]

On the whole we did ok...weak links were Gardner and our fullbacks.

and Gestede, easy to miss him though because his name barely got mentioned.

Gestede may as well have stopped on the team bus.  No contribution at all.

[Duncan Shaw]

Did I hear our fans singing "you're fucking shit" to Bacuna when he was trying to get the ball back for a corner?

[Virgil Caine]

To all the Villa fans that went- fantastic performance, on the TV the Villa support sounded incredible.

[dekko]

Some of the same old problems, some reasons for optimism.  You don't get over 6 years of shit in one summer.  3 or 4 signings and a bit of time to gel and we'll be fine.