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Offline sid1964

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3840 on: January 10, 2018, 07:03:29 AM »
personally I think that it is good that Tony lets us know that he is not happy with what is going on, he has supposedly thrown £80+ million to date at the Villa, if i was the owner i would be furious after that fiasco on Saturday.

I only spent a tenner and i was ranting after the game.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3841 on: January 10, 2018, 07:36:11 AM »
personally I think that it is good that Tony lets us know that he is not happy with what is going on, he has supposedly thrown £80+ million to date at the Villa, if i was the owner i would be furious after that fiasco on Saturday.

I only spent a tenner and i was ranting after the game.

Brilliant :)

Offline robbo1874

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3842 on: January 10, 2018, 08:29:36 AM »
I don't think he's intolerant of failure as such. I think he comes from a culture that's intolerant of plodding complacency, apathy and failure to work harder than the competition. Until the club wakes up at every level Our Tone's going to be frustrated.

About his social media activities, the world has changed and is changing fast. What was relevant even five years ago doesn't necessarily apply today. We don't have to like it, but this is the way things are now.
this. Our main client at work is a Chinese company. Demanding is an understatement. They demand hard work and demand results. It’s the culture.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3843 on: January 10, 2018, 09:15:49 AM »
I don't think he's intolerant of failure as such. I think he comes from a culture that's intolerant of plodding complacency, apathy and failure to work harder than the competition. Until the club wakes up at every level Our Tone's going to be frustrated.

About his social media activities, the world has changed and is changing fast. What was relevant even five years ago doesn't necessarily apply today. We don't have to like it, but this is the way things are now.
this. Our main client at work is a Chinese company. Demanding is an understatement. They demand hard work and demand results. It’s the culture.

THIS
For me, its great that our owner does not want/tolerate failure. For far to long we have had our ambitions dampened. Aim high. 

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3844 on: January 10, 2018, 10:13:51 AM »
He has made some very telling comments on his Twitter feed that show the difference in mindset. One was something like: "In China everything is difficult but possible, but in Europe everything is easy but nothing's possible."

This way of thinking is clearly out of kilter with the current Villa way, and come to think of it the Birmingham way, which for far too long has been "it can't be done" accompanied with a half-arsed shrug of the shoulders.

Having spent over a month in Asia prior to Christmas, it was clear to me the prevailing attitude among everyday people there was "we'll fucking well find a way", which should be worrying for people in the faltering west.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3845 on: January 10, 2018, 11:22:25 AM »
Having spent over a month in Asia prior to Christmas, it was clear to me the prevailing attitude among everyday people there was "we'll fucking well find a way", which should be worrying for people in the faltering west.

Yep, another example of this is high speed rail.  In 2000 China had zero miles of high speed rail - their fastest trains travelled at speeds less than 100mph.  Since then they've built over 16,000 miles of high speed rail track, with another 8,000 miles by 2025 and then a further 4,000 miles beyond that.

We on the other hand started thinking about HS2 in 2009 and IF (pretty big IF) it goes to plan we'll have 330 miles built by 2033!

I genuinely fear for future generations in the UK - the balance of power is shifting massively and most of the population are asleep to it.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3846 on: January 10, 2018, 11:32:40 AM »
personally I think that it is good that Tony lets us know that he is not happy with what is going on, he has supposedly thrown £80+ million to date at the Villa, if i was the owner i would be furious after that fiasco on Saturday.

I only spent a tenner and i was ranting after the game.

I doubt if Xia gives two hoots about the FA Cup really. I think his sole aim when he bought Villa was to get back to the PL as soon as possible. 

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3847 on: January 10, 2018, 12:00:39 PM »
Having spent over a month in Asia prior to Christmas, it was clear to me the prevailing attitude among everyday people there was "we'll fucking well find a way", which should be worrying for people in the faltering west.

Yep, another example of this is high speed rail.  In 2000 China had zero miles of high speed rail - their fastest trains travelled at speeds less than 100mph.  Since then they've built over 16,000 miles of high speed rail track, with another 8,000 miles by 2025 and then a further 4,000 miles beyond that.

We on the other hand started thinking about HS2 in 2009 and IF (pretty big IF) it goes to plan we'll have 330 miles built by 2033!

I genuinely fear for future generations in the UK - the balance of power is shifting massively and most of the population are asleep to it.

Absolutely right. Not only that, but the Chinese are working on high-speed magnetic levitation railways. Our 'traditional' high-speed railway is already obsolete and it hasn't even been built yet.

In many ways, Villa has been like 'the west' versus Asia in microcosm. Too complacent in our comfort, half-asleep and stumbling as more switched-on rivals race past us, but a little too myopic and arrogant to really understand and accept what's happening. We need shaking and waking.   

Offline Ads

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3848 on: January 10, 2018, 12:50:16 PM »
You're not comapring apples and apples though. We could have 16,000 miles of track endlessly swirling this tiny island and we'd all still prefer to use the car.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3849 on: January 10, 2018, 01:11:30 PM »
You're not comapring apples and apples though. We could have 16,000 miles of track endlessly swirling this tiny island and we'd all still prefer to use the car.

You've lost me.

The comment was about Chinese attitudes towards getting on with things vs Western attitudes.  What have transport preferences got to do with that?

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3850 on: January 10, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
Having spent over a month in Asia prior to Christmas, it was clear to me the prevailing attitude among everyday people there was "we'll fucking well find a way", which should be worrying for people in the faltering west.


I genuinely fear for future generations in the UK - the balance of power is shifting massively and most of the population are asleep to it.

That is because they are too preoccupied with shit such as Love Island and Jeremy fucking Kyle  to care

Offline Simon Page

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3851 on: January 10, 2018, 01:21:38 PM »
Before we all get too misty-eyed over the genius of the Chinese, would you swap their human rights record for ours? Would you swap their attitude to workers for ours? There's a bit more to how they get things done than just a work ethic.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3852 on: January 10, 2018, 01:25:35 PM »
Before we all get too misty-eyed over the genius of the Chinese, would you swap their human rights record for ours? Would you swap their attitude to workers for ours? There's a bit more to how they get things done than just a work ethic.

Of course we wouldn't but when they've overtaken us and destroyed our standard of living in the process I'm not sure future generations will thank us for the Health & Safety at Work Act 1974.

I genuinely don't know what the answer is but their rate of progress is absolutely frightening and the vast majority of the UK still thinks of China as a generally rural, a little bit backward, society whereas they're arguably way ahead of us already in a lot of respects and accelerating further away.

Offline Simon Page

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3853 on: January 10, 2018, 01:45:47 PM »
How did Bronze Age man manage to build Stonehenge?

Ans: Whips.

In my lifetime Germany was going to leave us miles behind, then Japan, then Singapore and Malaysia, then the BRICs. Jesus, even Nigeria and South Africa have enjoyed favoured threat status. China is expanding to catch up, has a billion and a half people and can happily whip, imprison and kill their way through anything to get the job done. It's not work ethic that separates us.

I'm sure the same was said of Uncle Joe's five-year plans.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3854 on: January 10, 2018, 01:49:53 PM »
How did Bronze Age man manage to build Stonehenge?

Ans: Whips.

In my lifetime Germany was going to leave us miles behind, then Japan, then Singapore and Malaysia, then the BRICs. Jesus, even Nigeria and South Africa have enjoyed favoured threat status. China is expanding to catch up, has a billion and a half people and can happily whip, imprison and kill their way through anything to get the job done. It's not work ethic that separates us.

I'm sure the same was said of Uncle Joe's five-year plans.

I'll just quote Jimbo:

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Too complacent in our comfort, half-asleep and stumbling as more switched-on rivals race past us, but a little too myopic and arrogant to really understand and accept what's happening. We need shaking and waking.   

 


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