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Offline clash city rocker

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3720 on: December 27, 2017, 08:47:03 PM »
Aims-

To be among the best in the world within 5 years...
To regenerate not only Villa Park but the entire area...
To increase the capacity to 60,000.....

Hires Steve Bruce.
Doesn't make any sense because it is bullshit.

It’s not bullshit. He was brought in to get us promoted as part of those plans. Something he has achieved a number of times in the past. No different to hiring Warnock who is doing a stellar job at Cardiff. Bruce is failing badly on why he was brought to the club. Doesn’t make the strategic long term goals wrong or misguided. 

You want to become one of the best sides in Europe, you have a huge financial advantage over everyone in the league. You hire Steve Bruce.

Let that sink in.

So based on those goals did you expect us to go get Ancelotti? Was that realistic? You can still set long term strategic objectives but recognize there are shorter term tactical steps to achieve them.

Villa don't do tactical steps. In fact we do nothing tactically.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3721 on: December 27, 2017, 09:00:47 PM »
The tactical step was to go get the unemployed clogger who is known for playing long ball garbage and getting some teams up through the play offs?

Newcastle kept Benitez. We hired play off chancer potato. Who's notoriously shit in the top division. So the Villa engine includes hiring a manager with the intention of sacking him should he get you promoted? It all doesn't make any sense.

There are no riches, there is no Villa engine. We don't know what we are doing. We are in chancer territory again. This is going to end like the Lerner shambles.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3722 on: December 27, 2017, 09:41:41 PM »
So based on those goals did you expect us to go get Ancelotti? Was that realistic? You can still set long term strategic objectives but recognize there are shorter term tactical steps to achieve them.

It's not about getting ancelotti, or klopp, or pep or anyone on that level, it's about getting managers who can create a base for the next one to work with, and keep following the plan even if things don't turn around straight away.  We should be up in the top half of the premier league, the stadium, facilities, fan base, history/recognition are all in place for it but for years we've had no identity.  You can only go for so long with no guiding strategy before you get found out and the whole trip will see you waste fuck loads of money because no one is looking at a plan and deciding that the manager making the calls or the players he's signing fit with what we're trying to do.

We need to fuck Bruce off and copy whatever plans Round has come up with for the 'engine' onto the first team and see which players sink and swim.  The concept Round has created might not be what we need, and if it isn't he'll be found out and we'll have to start over, but at least there will be some strategic thinking in place. We've spent too long hanging on to the past and seen club after club grow-up and overtake us, it needs to change, we need someone on the board to grow some balls and put their head on the line to say "give me 3/4/5 years to do xyz and lets stick to it through thick and thin".  I can't see Wyness having the backbone for that though.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3723 on: December 27, 2017, 09:44:20 PM »
I wonder if they discussed the Villa Engine with Bruce before he joined.

Offline Nelly

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3724 on: December 27, 2017, 09:54:32 PM »
I'm not sure they did, wasn't the villa engine announced fairly recently? I just don't see how it fits with Steve Bruce unless it's how hard we train our players to punt it.

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3725 on: December 27, 2017, 11:19:20 PM »
I’m completely out of touch these days, we have an engine now?

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3726 on: December 27, 2017, 11:24:22 PM »
Aston Villa's metamorphosis: The new philosophy that is shaping the club's transformation

Keith Wyness reveals the club's new mantra as Aston Villa continues to rebuild
BY STEVE WOLLASTON
20:07, 5 SEP 2017

Aston Villa CEO Keith Wyness has today revealed that the club have a new motto that is at the centre of the club's transformation.

Wyness calls it the 'Villa Engine' and explains that it is an important philosophy that everyone at the club is buying into.

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3727 on: December 27, 2017, 11:27:14 PM »
We’ve got a bunch of fucking idiots running our football club.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3728 on: December 28, 2017, 12:55:51 AM »
Bit harsh. I mean Tone/Wyness went and hired a champions league winning manager who had experience in the Championship. He had a veyr bad run so they binned him. Then they hired promotion specialist Steve Bruce who clearly now is not working out either but it was a decent plan even if I was opposed.

They will be idiots of they dont sack him in January though. I still have enough respect for Xia & Wyness's intelligence that I assume they are already talking about the next manager. Thats just blind faith by the way no ITK. Xia in particular just seems very consistent in his philosophy. He wants to win here at Villa so he hires winners. If they stop being winners he gets rid.




Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3729 on: December 28, 2017, 01:40:28 AM »
I’m completely out of touch these days, we have an engine now?

Most assuredly; Cosher Bailey is the chief engineer.

Cosher Bailey had an engine
It was always wanting mending,
And according to the power,
She could do four miles an hour


Offline ROBBO

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3730 on: December 28, 2017, 02:07:19 AM »
The next two games will tell the story if we don't get useful points out of them he will be gone.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3731 on: December 28, 2017, 03:42:28 AM »
The Villa Engine...


« Last Edit: December 28, 2017, 03:30:31 PM by CT Villan »

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3732 on: December 28, 2017, 07:03:06 AM »

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3733 on: December 28, 2017, 07:04:11 AM »

Offline Damo70

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #3734 on: December 28, 2017, 10:38:24 AM »



It's the funny shaped steering wheel that is stopping us going in the right direction.

 


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