If he does it makes what he did to the person responsible for the greatest moment in the history of Aston Villa even more disgraceful.
Quote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position? I've said everything I want to say. Nothing Ellis did at Villa compares to the crap we were put through since 2010, absolutely nothing.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position?
Quote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!
Ellis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was.
Plenty of people know what happened with the testimonial.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:20:25 PMIf he does it makes what he did to the person responsible for the greatest moment in the history of Aston Villa even more disgraceful.No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I too love RS. and TB. Lifes shit sometimes.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 08:50:28 PMQuote from: Drummond on September 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 07:21:26 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 07, 2017, 06:23:15 PMEllis wins hands down. He came back to a club hugely fortunate that was Kings of Europe. It takes a massive kind of shit at what you do to get that side relegated in 5 years. What happened after and any successes subsequently should never diminish that. It's like saying Lerner should been allowed to bring us back up and reducing the 2010-2016 era to a few pages in history to be rebated over how bad it was. What a load of old cobblers!Fancy responding to the rest? Or are you just going to continue with your position? I've said everything I want to say. Nothing Ellis did at Villa compares to the crap we were put through since 2010, absolutely nothing.I thought so, stick to your position, don't explain, don't reason, just keep shouting the same line.
Quote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 09:23:31 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:20:25 PMIf he does it makes what he did to the person responsible for the greatest moment in the history of Aston Villa even more disgraceful.No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I too love RS. and TB. Lifes shit sometimes. Indeed.
The exact same could be said about you though. The facts are there. Humiliation like never before.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:36:10 PMQuote from: four fornicholl on September 07, 2017, 09:23:31 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:20:25 PMIf he does it makes what he did to the person responsible for the greatest moment in the history of Aston Villa even more disgraceful.No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I too love RS. and TB. Lifes shit sometimes. Indeed. Apart from plenty do know, and it's from independents that were at the testimonial, Rose Barton and things like that, so it's hardly guess work.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:37:09 PMThe exact same could be said about you though. The facts are there. Humiliation like never before. Difference is nearly everyone will say they were both shit. Both did some good things as well. You won't even condemn Ellis for his treatment of Tony and Rose Barton. So it's not the exact same at all.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:40:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:37:09 PMThe exact same could be said about you though. The facts are there. Humiliation like never before. Difference is nearly everyone will say they were both shit. Both did some good things as well. You won't even condemn Ellis for his treatment of Tony and Rose Barton. So it's not the exact same at all. You're not laying that one at my door. Just because I haven't spoke of Barton tonight doesn't mean I don't condemn what happened to him.
Lerner took over with us having last won a trophy 10 years earlier. We had just finished 16th.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:42:33 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on September 07, 2017, 09:40:10 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on September 07, 2017, 09:37:09 PMThe exact same could be said about you though. The facts are there. Humiliation like never before. Difference is nearly everyone will say they were both shit. Both did some good things as well. You won't even condemn Ellis for his treatment of Tony and Rose Barton. So it's not the exact same at all. You're not laying that one at my door. Just because I haven't spoke of Barton tonight doesn't mean I don't condemn what happened to him. You at least agree that it was an absolute disgrace?