Quote from: brian green on September 03, 2017, 11:45:30 AMThere are two very big it's there Clampy. If we start playing well. If we go on a winning run. All of the available evidence from the forty games Bruce has been in charge suggest that is what is likely to happen. IF we go on a winning run he can stay for life as far as I am concerned. It's also a big 'if' saying 'if we're not top 6' or 'if we're off the pace' etc though isn't it?
There are two very big it's there Clampy. If we start playing well. If we go on a winning run. All of the available evidence from the forty games Bruce has been in charge suggest that is what is likely to happen. IF we go on a winning run he can stay for life as far as I am concerned.
Quote from: Risso on September 01, 2017, 10:11:14 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.
Quote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean.
so he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 10:13:48 AMQuote from: Risso on September 01, 2017, 10:11:14 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership. Out of interest, how much did Randy's ownership cost him?
That must apply to Fulham, Derby, Boro, Sheffield Wednesday then too.
Quote from: Rudy65 on September 03, 2017, 01:10:38 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 10:13:48 AMQuote from: Risso on September 01, 2017, 10:11:14 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership. Out of interest, how much did Randy's ownership cost him?The exact figure varies according to who you talk to, but something approaching £200 million is generally reckoned to be not far off.
So there 5 games don't count but ours do?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2017, 01:23:40 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 03, 2017, 01:10:38 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 10:13:48 AMQuote from: Risso on September 01, 2017, 10:11:14 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership. Out of interest, how much did Randy's ownership cost him?The exact figure varies according to who you talk to, but something approaching £200 million is generally reckoned to be not far off."A fool and his money......."
Seeing as we don't play in a vacuum the results of our rivals for promotion are highly significant.The first three games weren't good enough, the last two were exactly what is required.
It's just ticked into September. We're writing off a lot of sides aren't we, including us it seems.
Quote from: Villa75 on September 03, 2017, 03:36:18 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2017, 01:23:40 PMQuote from: Rudy65 on September 03, 2017, 01:10:38 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 10:13:48 AMQuote from: Risso on September 01, 2017, 10:11:14 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 01, 2017, 09:10:02 AMQuote from: mr underhill on September 01, 2017, 09:09:11 AMso he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean. I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment. Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly. From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over. It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course. A spectacular disaster all round.Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership. Out of interest, how much did Randy's ownership cost him?The exact figure varies according to who you talk to, but something approaching £200 million is generally reckoned to be not far off."A fool and his money......."At least he put it into our club, even if it didnt work out.