Tony's Tweets

[Risso]

so he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?

He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean.

I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment.  Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly.  From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over.  It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course.  A spectacular disaster all round.

[dave.woodhall]

so he was at it then, in a sense, as he was the club's only shareholder?

He didn't take any of it out, if that's what you mean.

I will criticise Lerner for many, many things, and we will probably regret his ownership of the club for years to come, but one thing that you absolutely cannot accuse him of is using the club for personal enrichment.  Rarely has one man spent so much money, so very badly.  From memory, he took £7m out in the first year, but that came back in about 30 times over.  It's is fair to say that the Lerner family trust took one hell of a battering from Randy's time with us, as did the club of course.  A spectacular disaster all round.

Indeed. My favourite quote is that it would have been cheaper for him to hand over a £20 note to everyone who came through the turnstiles at every game played at Villa Park during his ownership. 

[old man villa fan]

He even lost out with us not being promoted last season.

[Villa75]

Yep. Randy couldn't be accused of taking huge amounts of money during his time with us. He was way too stupid, at running a football club, to have any chance of doing that.

His incompetence put us where we were today. That's enough to blame him for.

[mr underhill]

Tom Peter's is writing a new management guide  based on Randy's stewardship of Villa - it's called 'In Search of Shiteness'.

[andyh]

Probably wishful thinking on my part but Tony's latest tweet looks to me like a warning to Bruce.
Shape up or............?

[passport1]

Not sure if this article has been referenced before. I've just seen it and frankly the parallels with  what he got up to at Villa are uncanny. Let's just say Randy had form.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/19/14977028/butch-davis-goes-after-randy-lerner-in-article

[purpletrousers]

Probably wishful thinking on my part but Tony's latest tweet looks to me like a warning to Bruce.
Shape up or............?

"A crucial month. Time to build real confidence and 'only results matter' culture at Villa as RECON always did as firm culture.#Septemberwish"

Well I don't think you are so far off. I think being transparent about that way of thinking is akin to: now no excuses. I seem to remember plenty of 'this is the most important period in our club's history' but crikey, with one year signinings aplenty, Bruce simply has to make it work. I really hope he does, and proves the increasing parts of us that doubt he can, wrong.

[robbo1874]

I reckon if we aren't top 6 by end Oct- he'll be gone.

[mr underhill]

sooner imo

[brian green]

Me too.  End of September.

[Clampy]

Dr Tone is right. Results matter at the moment and playing well will come with confidence if we go on a good run. As long as we're not totally off the pace, I think he'll get the season.

[brian green]

There are two very big it's there Clampy.  If we start playing well.  If we go on a winning run.  All of the available evidence from the forty games Bruce has been in charge suggest that is what is likely to happen.  IF we go on a winning run he can stay for life as far as I am concerned. 

[Clampy]

There are two very big it's there Clampy.  If we start playing well.  If we go on a winning run.  All of the available evidence from the forty games Bruce has been in charge suggest that is what is likely to happen.  IF we go on a winning run he can stay for life as far as I am concerned. 

It's also a big 'if' saying 'if we're not top 6' or 'if we're off the pace' etc though isn't it?

[brian green]

Yes it is, I agree, but the only way you can logically forecast what is going to happen in future is to examine what has happened in the past.  I respectfully put forward the view that we have to improve substantially before the manager can regard his position as secure.