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Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2235 on: February 19, 2017, 06:48:41 AM »
Yeah we have the very best Sweet and Sour in the UK.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2236 on: February 20, 2017, 07:31:30 AM »
Read an interesting tweet from the Dr over the weekend stating that the money that we received as our parachute payment this season does not cover half the annual wage bill at our club, for me this is a very worrying statement, I think that if  we don't get promoted next season then as Collymore said we could be in big trouble!

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« Reply #2237 on: February 20, 2017, 07:36:43 AM »
Read an interesting tweet from the Dr over the weekend stating that the money that we received as our parachute payment this season does not cover half the annual wage bill at our club, for me this is a very worrying statement, I think that if  we don't get promoted next season then as Collymore said we could be in big trouble!
That's appalling if true.

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« Reply #2238 on: February 20, 2017, 07:52:17 AM »
Read an interesting tweet from the Dr over the weekend stating that the money that we received as our parachute payment this season does not cover half the annual wage bill at our club, for me this is a very worrying statement, I think that if  we don't get promoted next season then as Collymore said we could be in big trouble!
That's appalling if true.

No surprise

Next season we get 38 million, season 3 its 13 million

If we arent up by the end of next season we are fucked

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2239 on: February 20, 2017, 08:00:37 AM »
Better start playing as well as the poor clubs then.

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« Reply #2240 on: February 20, 2017, 08:08:49 AM »
On a similar note, not sure if it should have its own thread, but I onThe weekend heard from someone who spends a lot of time in accounting and legal circles that we were very close to administration last year. Has anyone else heard similar? I know our finances weren't great but I don't have any idea at what point administration becomes a possibility.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2241 on: February 20, 2017, 09:48:03 AM »
Read an interesting tweet from the Dr over the weekend stating that the money that we received as our parachute payment this season does not cover half the annual wage bill at our club, for me this is a very worrying statement, I think that if  we don't get promoted next season then as Collymore said we could be in big trouble!

This is the elephant in the room I think. Even on the latest set of incoming transfers, there have been strong suggestions that the salaries we're paying are at Premier League level - and it's the salaries that cause the biggest issues as Lerner found. There will be serious problems by Summer 2018 if we are still in this league.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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« Reply #2242 on: February 20, 2017, 09:48:48 AM »
Regardless of the past and present financials on the club, we are still making the same mistakes when it comes to recruitment, Manager wants, Manager gets, I have stated on here previously that the manager whether that is Bruce or someone else should have been told and should be told going forward, any changes required are financed by outgoings, apart from that I have changed your title to coach, so guess what bloody coach improvement into them.
On Talk sport today (yes I know, I'm bored), one of Bruceys media hoppos stated that Bruce has told him it will take him 3 windows at least to get this sorted, to me that is not acceptable unless he self funds by selling, the amount of wages we must be paying to players out on loan who are contributing naff all to Aston Villa is probably enough to have Dr Tony running for the hills.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2243 on: February 20, 2017, 09:52:51 AM »
Regardless of the past and present financials on the club, we are still making the same mistakes when it comes to recruitment, Manager wants, Manager gets, I have stated on here previously that the manager whether that is Bruce or someone else should have been told and should be told going forward, any changes required are financed by outgoings, apart from that I have changed your title to coach, so guess what bloody coach improvement into them.
On Talk sport today (yes I know, I'm bored), one of Bruceys media hoppos stated that Bruce has told him it will take him 3 windows at least to get this sorted, to me that is not acceptable unless he self funds by selling, the amount of wages we must be paying to players out on loan who are contributing naff all to Aston Villa is probably enough to have Dr Tony running for the hills.
Isn't that broadly what Lerner did and by turning the tap of so suddenly pretty much destroyed our club?

Quite pleased you're no on our Board to be honest.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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« Reply #2244 on: February 20, 2017, 09:59:03 AM »
Yes that is what Lerner did to a certain extent, but then again I can always please the like of you and say, spend spend spend and when that does not work, I will not worry about being on your board, because there will be no need for a board, as there will be nothing left to represent.
Quite pleased you are not my accountant.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2245 on: February 20, 2017, 10:13:11 AM »
There has to be something in the fact that 4 wealthy Chinese businessmen has bought the 4 West Midlands clubs ????
Smoke without fire

I read a while ago (but cannot think of where to reference it now) that a huge part of the reasoning is the pending HS2 rail link between here and London and the money that it will bring in, especially in housing etc due to 1 hour commutes. A lot of London based people will see the significantly lower living costs of Birmingham and surrounding areas and move here which in turn will become a developers wet dream for providing facilities for these people.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2246 on: February 20, 2017, 12:00:39 PM »
On a similar note, not sure if it should have its own thread, but I onThe weekend heard from someone who spends a lot of time in accounting and legal circles that we were very close to administration last year. Has anyone else heard similar? I know our finances weren't great but I don't have any idea at what point administration becomes a possibility.
No, there would have been no point in Lerner going down the Admin route, he bought in an insolvent /restructuring specialist and there is no way Hollis would reccomend that.
They tried to run the club in a way that limited Lerners exposure and to sell the club.

Administration becomes a possibility when a business is unable to meet its liabilities, (as and when they fall due).
This has never been the case

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2247 on: February 20, 2017, 12:15:35 PM »
On a similar note, not sure if it should have its own thread, but I onThe weekend heard from someone who spends a lot of time in accounting and legal circles that we were very close to administration last year. Has anyone else heard similar? I know our finances weren't great but I don't have any idea at what point administration becomes a possibility.
No, there would have been no point in Lerner going down the Admin route, he bought in an insolvent /restructuring specialist and there is no way Hollis would reccomend that.
They tried to run the club in a way that limited Lerners exposure and to sell the club.

Administration becomes a possibility when a business is unable to meet its liabilities, (as and when they fall due).
This has never been the case
Thanks for the reply. I did comment that I thought it was bollocks.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2248 on: February 20, 2017, 01:25:16 PM »
Regardless of the past and present financials on the club, we are still making the same mistakes when it comes to recruitment, Manager wants, Manager gets, I have stated on here previously that the manager whether that is Bruce or someone else should have been told and should be told going forward, any changes required are financed by outgoings, apart from that I have changed your title to coach, so guess what bloody coach improvement into them.
On Talk sport today (yes I know, I'm bored), one of Bruceys media hoppos stated that Bruce has told him it will take him 3 windows at least to get this sorted, to me that is not acceptable unless he self funds by selling, the amount of wages we must be paying to players out on loan who are contributing naff all to Aston Villa is probably enough to have Dr Tony running for the hills.

To be fair - Bruce did a fair bit of funding by selling in this window, and also got players out on loan that he didn't intend to use. The reason for Gestede going when he did was to get a good sum up front going into the window. There was no hint that the money was drying up, but that Bruce said you have to work in a sustainable way and he was showing this.
Martin O'Neill kept buying new players without losing the old ones and that did for us in the Lerner years - Lerner should have had more of a handle on this, but my impression is that the set up with Bruce and Xia is very different  - just because the money is there, doesn't mean you can spend it stupidly.

I think the opposite issue has hit us this window - moving playerrs out to get players in in such numbers, has created too much change all at once, with limited options to graduate it.

There must be a balance somewhere.

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Re: Tony's Tweets
« Reply #2249 on: February 20, 2017, 01:29:19 PM »
Assuming he stays, I wonder how many loanees he plans to hang on to? Is there any merit in trying to rehabilitate Gil Sanchez and Veretout for example?

 


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