Good work by the villa getting shot of that car crash
Good luck to him. I don’t get the saltiness about players like him leaving. You could say he wasted some good years of his career playing for a car crash club.I’ll save my bad vibes for the real piss takers and there have been plenty of those in recent years.
I honestly don't think we can judge the guy. We bought a 21 year old who needed to continue playing and to develop as all young players do and then we played him only eight times, provided little consistency in terms of management, and farmed him off to other clubs.Absolutely no one is going to develop and show their potential like that and we probably let him down as a club more than he ever had a chance to let us down.
If anyone deserves criticism it's Roberto Di Matteo. From the lad's point of view someone was showing enough faith in him to warrant a £5m transfer, he would have been getting a big jump in pay and moving to a much bigger club. He's hardly going to have said no. Unfortunately Di Matteo and Steve Clarke's faith was misplaced and he didn't have the talent to live up to the potential they thought he had.
Quote from: Dogtanian on August 30, 2019, 10:32:12 AMI honestly don't think we can judge the guy. We bought a 21 year old who needed to continue playing and to develop as all young players do and then we played him only eight times, provided little consistency in terms of management, and farmed him off to other clubs.Absolutely no one is going to develop and show their potential like that and we probably let him down as a club more than he ever had a chance to let us down.This pretty much sums up my thoughts. It's not really fair to level criticisms on how good he was when we brought him for his potential then did absolutely nothing to develop it. We overpaid for him, but that's hardly his fault.Good luck to the lad, anyway. Hope the move to Belgium works out for him.
Quote from: algy on August 30, 2019, 12:44:13 PMQuote from: Dogtanian on August 30, 2019, 10:32:12 AMI honestly don't think we can judge the guy. We bought a 21 year old who needed to continue playing and to develop as all young players do and then we played him only eight times, provided little consistency in terms of management, and farmed him off to other clubs.Absolutely no one is going to develop and show their potential like that and we probably let him down as a club more than he ever had a chance to let us down.This pretty much sums up my thoughts. It's not really fair to level criticisms on how good he was when we brought him for his potential then did absolutely nothing to develop it. We overpaid for him, but that's hardly his fault.Good luck to the lad, anyway. Hope the move to Belgium works out for him.I agree, I think he could've been a decent player from what I saw but when RDM went we needed a manager like Smith to come in if we were going to nurture players like him, by going shit or bust we effectively cut our loses on almost anyone under about 22-23 who wasn't already established in the first team, the really odd bit of that is that he signed a couple of the people that he then pretty much ignored and who have now moved on (in Bedeau and Bree).