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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2955 on: February 13, 2017, 10:07:13 PM »
Yeah ok.

No wonder fans get fleeced at every level.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2956 on: February 13, 2017, 10:12:41 PM »
Why should Sutton charge less for a match against Arsenal than any team in the Premier League would? They are already at a massive disadvantage compared to said clubs.

And considering you were justifying Bromsgrove putting prices up, your argument isn't exactly water-tight.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2957 on: February 13, 2017, 10:16:25 PM »
I justified a £1.50 increase due to the costs required to be able to host 3K at the ground as it didn't even have a safety certificate for that. If they'd doubled the prices to £12 then i'd have refused to pay it and called them out just as I am with Sutton. Especially if they were already earning a chunk from it being live on TV plus the massive prize money already earned in prize money

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2958 on: February 13, 2017, 10:16:58 PM »
There's a massive difference in attitude between non-league and the top levels. For a start, non-league has hardly any outside income - sponsorship and advertising invariably come from supporters. For many clubs this is the difference between survival and going under. Therefore, when you get a once in a lifetime windfall you make the most of it. Stour put the prices up 50% against Northampton; nobody complained. The money their cup runs have generated has, in part, gone into community work. That's another difference - clubs are part of the community in a way that Villa et al never will be again. It's not about being fleeced; it's helping something you're a part of.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2959 on: February 13, 2017, 10:22:08 PM »
I justified a £1.50 increase due to the costs required to be able to host 3K at the ground as it didn't even have a safety certificate for that. If they'd doubled the prices to £12 then i'd have refused to pay it and called them out just as I am with Sutton. Especially if they were already earning a chunk from it being live on TV plus the massive prize money already earned in prize money

Feel free to explain why they should charge less than Premier League clubs would for an occasion which is much bigger to them?

If they'd upped prices to £100, or even £50, or if they had forced fans to pay £30+ for preceding league games to have a chance of obtaining tickets, you'd be right to say that was a rip-off.

But they haven't. It's thirty quid for the biggest match in their history. Noone in Sutton will go hungry as a result of paying that.

I struggle to think of any league clubs that would charge less for a home 5th Round tie against Arsenal. Maybe clubs with grounds that are too big for them like Wigan or Bolton, at a push.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2960 on: February 13, 2017, 10:26:47 PM »
I know all that, it's why whenever I go to a Bromsgrove game home or away I always buy a programme and raffle ticket as I know the money helps a lot. I don't bother with programmes etc with Villa games.
It's still different, to me at least, to saying thanks for turning up for years when we were shit, now shut up and pay double now we're actually doing something.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2961 on: February 13, 2017, 10:33:03 PM »
We wouldn't for starters. And those that do won't have doubled the prices to do so.

And the reason they shouldn't charge PL prices is they aren't a PL club.

Looks like we'll always disagree, i'll never be okay with any club at any level doubling it's prices just because it's a big game, no matter how big. Others are okay with it which is their right.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2962 on: February 13, 2017, 10:33:35 PM »
I think most of the attendees won't have been there for years of shit. They'll have a far bigger crowd than usual. I suspect those that do go week-in, week-out will be far too excited about such a big game then to quibble about an extra fifteen quid.

As I said, there were ways that they could have ripped fans off... forcing them to attend prior games to have a chance, for instance. I don't think thirty quid for a cup game, the biggest in their history, against a club the size of Arsenal is particularly bad.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2963 on: February 13, 2017, 10:37:35 PM »
We wouldn't for starters.

I can only find the Albion end prices for their cup game at Villa Park, but I imagine ours were similar. £30 and £25. I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest we would have charged similarly if we'd been drawn at home to Arsenal. In fact, I remember us paying about  £35 for a Third Round game against Man U, probably at least a decade ago now. That's probably worth (takes out post-Brexit calculator) about a grand now.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2964 on: February 13, 2017, 10:42:26 PM »
We haven't charged £30 for a cup game for years now. If we don't charge if for the first QF at VP in decades that was a local derby as well then I seriously doubt we would for a 5th round v Arsenal, or anyone else.

Then again I got seriously fucked off when we put the price up each round of the UEFA Cup in 97/98. Annoyed me so much I didn't renew my ST the following season. Again i'm sure there were many that didn't mind. It's what makes life interesting, we all have different views.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2965 on: February 13, 2017, 10:48:48 PM »
We charged  £30 and £25 for West Brom. Unless we charged their fans more than ours, which I don't think we are allowed to do. And I remember us charging over  £30 for at least one of the Man U games, which might have been the last "glamour" tie in the competition.

In the unlikely event we find ourselves in the European Cup hosting a European giant such as Barcelona, Real or Clyde, I expect we would charge over thirty quid. That's still far less of a step up than it is Sutton playing Arsenal.

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2966 on: February 13, 2017, 10:54:41 PM »
Think you are right we charged £30 for the posh seats, I was thinking of how it was £25 in the Holte. As I only ever Seatwave/Viagogo or pay in on the Holte I always forget other stands are more.

We probably would, and if we doubled our prices I wouldn't be paying it. So at least i'd be consistent!
« Last Edit: February 13, 2017, 11:09:02 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2967 on: February 13, 2017, 11:05:39 PM »
Annoyed that the one cup game I really fancy watching clashes with the Villa at Newcastle.

Sutton might have a better chance of making a game of it than us...

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2968 on: February 14, 2017, 10:46:01 AM »
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Then again I got seriously fucked off when we put the price up each round of the UEFA Cup in 97/98. Annoyed me so much I didn't renew my ST the following season. Again i'm sure there were many that didn't mind. It's what makes life interesting, we all have different views.

I don't remember that and I went to all of those games.

Then again I was paying junior prices then so maybe the increase was for adult tickets only. Was it a big increase per game?

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Re: Other Games - 2016/17
« Reply #2969 on: February 14, 2017, 10:55:22 AM »
I thought the F.A set admission prices for F.A. Cup games (I'm probably wrong though)

 


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