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Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #120 on: May 20, 2016, 02:05:26 PM »
ok - so we agree that his background is in city planning and that, through xwho he gained experience and was succesful.

He's now associated with Recon who's only business is making MSG at a loss.  That seems strange to me.

Next,  his business plan would appear to hinge on the regneration of Aston using funds from wealthy chinese backers who want to move their money off shore and diversify their assets.

Why does he need to buy Villa to do this?  That again seems strange to me.


The bold bit is completely wrong, Lotus is 1 small part of the group, I've posted lots and lots of links on the other thread but basically xwho are still operating as a subsidiary of recon, teamax is another subsidiary of recon.

He personally will be the chairman but the 'owner' is the group and the group will be the wealthy chinese backer who want to invest in the city.


"Last month, Lotus — Recon’s only verifiable asset — announced it had made a net loss in 2015 of Rmb508.5m ($77.6m) on revenues of Rmb1.7bn, compared with a net profit of Rmb23.9m the previous year"

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #121 on: May 20, 2016, 02:07:58 PM »
The bold bit is completely wrong, Lotus is 1 small part of the group, I've posted lots and lots of links on the other thread but basically xwho are still operating as a subsidiary of recon, teamax is another subsidiary of recon.

I assume Oldhill means The Financial Times article disputes that.

I hadn't read it before i posted but it's still only a small part of the group though.  The main companies seem to be unlisted and because of that don't seem to have a requirement to post accounts so finding meaningful financial details is very difficult.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2016, 02:10:25 PM »
Tony say he aim to make Aston Villa top 3 team in the world. How he will do that as there is Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Juventus, for starters.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #123 on: May 20, 2016, 02:11:10 PM »
ok - so we agree that his background is in city planning and that, through xwho he gained experience and was succesful.

He's now associated with Recon who's only business is making MSG at a loss.  That seems strange to me.

Next,  his business plan would appear to hinge on the regneration of Aston using funds from wealthy chinese backers who want to move their money off shore and diversify their assets.

Why does he need to buy Villa to do this?  That again seems strange to me.


The bold bit is completely wrong, Lotus is 1 small part of the group, I've posted lots and lots of links on the other thread but basically xwho are still operating as a subsidiary of recon, teamax is another subsidiary of recon.

He personally will be the chairman but the 'owner' is the group and the group will be the wealthy chinese backer who want to invest in the city.


"Last month, Lotus — Recon’s only verifiable asset — announced it had made a net loss in 2015 of Rmb508.5m ($77.6m) on revenues of Rmb1.7bn, compared with a net profit of Rmb23.9m the previous year"

On the plus side, the company made nearly £1.2billion revenue last year. On the flip side, their costs were higher. I just hope there was a lot going on by way of depreciation and other overheads and they were aiming for a loss, I'm doubtful though.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2016, 02:20:01 PM by hoyle87 »

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #124 on: May 20, 2016, 02:11:44 PM »
Tony say he aim to make Aston Villa top 3 team in the world. How he will do that as there is Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Juventus, for starters.

He might want to start by making us the top team in the West Midlands

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #125 on: May 20, 2016, 02:15:53 PM »
Tony say he aim to make Aston Villa top 3 team in the world. How he will do that as there is Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Juventus, for starters.

Right now, he has his work cut out to get us to top 30.  I take this statement more as one of an emphasis of ambition rather than a specific target. The true target is recruiting the right manager and securing promotion quickly.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #126 on: May 20, 2016, 02:53:33 PM »
Football is not big news in China, so my friends have not heard much of the deal. The only clubs that matter are the European elite. For now, basketball is far bigger (mainly due to a few Chinese players making it big in the NBA) and it will take a while for those Chinese plans for football to become the national game to take off.

Feedback on Tony Xia / Rui Kang has varied from "who?" to critical comments re his past from my old teacher, who knows nothing about football but did some research for me. On the other hand I heard from somebody close to the deal that Lerner was very determined that Hollis should ensure a sale to a fit and proper custodian only.

I shall assume positive intent for now and hope my Chinese contacts can get me freebies to all our big games to come in the next few years.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #127 on: May 20, 2016, 03:00:22 PM »
Football is not big news in China, so my friends have not heard much of the deal. The only clubs that matter are the European elite. For now, basketball is far bigger (mainly due to a few Chinese players making it big in the NBA) and it will take a while for those Chinese plans for football to become the national game to take off.

Feedback on Tony Xia / Rui Kang has varied from "who?" to critical comments re his past from my old teacher, who knows nothing about football but did some research for me. On the other hand I heard from somebody close to the deal that Lerner was very determined that Hollis should ensure a sale to a fit and proper custodian only.

I shall assume positive intent for now and hope my Chinese contacts can get me freebies to all our big games to come in the next few years.

Hi Paul,

It's been a while, mate. Exciting times, eh? Especially for us former China expats.

A few football mad mates have been in touch to offer their congratulations. They've heard of him and his various business ventures, but didn't realise he was into his football. He's seen as a bit of a 'whizz kid' apparently, and has a fair bit of money.

It's nice to be rid of Lerner, and it'll be great to see Villa on previous season tours of China, hopefully in the near future.

Hope all is going well for you, mate.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #128 on: May 20, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
Where is Beatles band?

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #129 on: May 20, 2016, 05:43:31 PM »

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #130 on: May 20, 2016, 05:47:53 PM »
Football is not big news in China, so my friends have not heard much of the deal. The only clubs that matter are the European elite. For now, basketball is far bigger (mainly due to a few Chinese players making it big in the NBA) and it will take a while for those Chinese plans for football to become the national game to take off.

Feedback on Tony Xia / Rui Kang has varied from "who?" to critical comments re his past from my old teacher, who knows nothing about football but did some research for me. On the other hand I heard from somebody close to the deal that Lerner was very determined that Hollis should ensure a sale to a fit and proper custodian only.

I shall assume positive intent for now and hope my Chinese contacts can get me freebies to all our big games to come in the next few years.

Hi Paul,

It's been a while, mate. Exciting times, eh? Especially for us former China expats.

A few football mad mates have been in touch to offer their congratulations. They've heard of him and his various business ventures, but didn't realise he was into his football. He's seen as a bit of a 'whizz kid' apparently, and has a fair bit of money.

It's nice to be rid of Lerner, and it'll be great to see Villa on previous season tours of China, hopefully in the near future.

Hope all is going well for you, mate.

Thanks chaps - makes me feel a little more comfortable. Ultimately if there is money behind him (from a consortium for example) we will most likely never know anything about 'who' they are. Proof is in the manager etc and what state we are in come the beginning of August...

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #131 on: May 20, 2016, 08:45:23 PM »
Really he gave a bit of a soundbite. I hope so because what we need is a grounded owner with a sense of direction who is going to back whoever the manager is. We needed the change as soon as possible, lets wait and see. I do have my doubts.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #132 on: May 21, 2016, 02:01:53 PM »
Putting aside our previous with Dr Jo you have to feel comforted by someone called Dr Tony coming in to make everyone feel better. Although with that name he does sound more suited to a place on the This Morning sofa next to Pip Schofield and Holly Willoughboobies. I have allowed myself to be both optimistic and excited that the good doctor is in the Villa house.

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #133 on: May 21, 2016, 04:09:35 PM »
Salsa,

If Carlsberg did football, AVFC would be in the top three!!!!

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Re: Tony Xia interview in The Guardian
« Reply #134 on: May 21, 2016, 07:44:29 PM »
if we could get two top notch chinese and indians players playing for us we will be one of biggest club in China and India and indian community in midlands.

 


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