When does the Booing stop....

[amfy]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

The team have received fantastic support, absolutely unbelievable support for 3 quarters of this season and it's done nothing to lift the team. More than that, it seems to have been thrown back in the fans' faces by several players. How could we possibly play worse?

28/10/2015 I have a clear memory of it being 10 minutes into the game at 0-0 when we started singing 'We're fucking shit'. That wasn't the first time, and it has been done all season since. So can we put to bed the sanctimonious myth of our incredibly patient support?

[Chico Hamilton III]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

The team have received fantastic support, absolutely unbelievable support for 3 quarters of this season and it's done nothing to lift the team. More than that, it seems to have been thrown back in the fans' faces by several players. How could we possibly play worse?

28/10/2015 I have a clear memory of it being 10 minutes into the game at 0-0 when we started singing 'We're fucking shit'. That wasn't the first time, and it has been done all season since. So can we put to bed the sanctimonious myth of our incredibly patient support?

You blame the fans if it makes you happy. I'm not telling anyone how to support our team.

[Holte L2]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

The team have received fantastic support, absolutely unbelievable support for 3 quarters of this season and it's done nothing to lift the team. More than that, it seems to have been thrown back in the fans' faces by several players. How could we possibly play worse?

28/10/2015 I have a clear memory of it being 10 minutes into the game at 0-0 when we started singing 'We're fucking shit'. That wasn't the first time, and it has been done all season since. So can we put to bed the sanctimonious myth of our incredibly patient support?

Southampton away? 

[godzvilla]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

so you are saying so called Professional footballers who earn thousands a week are Scared to touch the ball?  They should be bombarded with boos If that's the case.

There are numerous cases of Entertainerīs etc who earn similar sums of money , being physically sick prior to going on stage. Nerves have no respect for salary or fame ..............Godzvilla!

[LeeS]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

so you are saying so called Professional footballers who earn thousands a week are Scared to touch the ball?  They should be bombarded with boos If that's the case.

There are numerous cases of Entertainerīs etc who earn similar sums of money , being physically sick prior to going on stage. Nerves have no respect for salary or fame ..............Godzvilla!

Agreed. I'd file it in the same category as John Gregory's views on Stan Collymore and his depression. Money makes no difference to the mental side of the game.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

They may well be nervous, and booing may well make it worse for them. But it is lack of application that got us relegated.

After how the majority of players have played all season why should we care if they are a bit nervous now. What they have done is not good enough and it's fine to show them this with full force for a time limited period for the next few games.

[aj2k77]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

The team have received fantastic support, absolutely unbelievable support for 3 quarters of this season and it's done nothing to lift the team. More than that, it seems to have been thrown back in the fans' faces by several players. How could we possibly play worse?

28/10/2015 I have a clear memory of it being 10 minutes into the game at 0-0 when we started singing 'We're fucking shit'. That wasn't the first time, and it has been done all season since. So can we put to bed the sanctimonious myth of our incredibly patient support?

So basically 10 or so games in to another bad run during the 6th season of continous poor form and bad runs? But were not patient? Yeah, Ok.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Have you guys noticed that Barca and Real fans wave white hankies and continually whistle when they don't like how their teams are playing? I'm sure their players don't like it when that happens and it hasn't affected their success over the years.

If anything they probably pull their socks up as they really don't want to see the blummin hankies again.

[conman]

I hope against Newcastle black picks the same team as last week , with the addition of gabby and even nzogbia so we can boo them and give them stick too,
We need to do that as part of the healing process from this disastrous season  so we can get some sort of closure

[Chico Hamilton III]

I'm guessing it's unlikely you'll be at VP for the Newcastle match mate, but if you are, would you really be booing the players during the game if we've still got a chance of dragging the Geordies down with us? I'm all for giving them stick when they come out, but we've much more a chance of beating Newcastle with the fans getting behind the players during the match?

I don't give a shit about Newcastle, whether they stay up or sink with us. And which of our players do you think will, after 35 games of doing absolutely nothing, suddenly make any effort if we clap them?

It would be great to win, not because of who we're playing but because we've only done it 3 times this season.

Yet you continue to advocate generating an atmosphere which makes this less likely?

You have your view, but a lot of people disagree with you, including the acting manager.  It's not about payers trying harder if you clap them, it's about them not having their confidence stripped from the moment they step on the pitch (and forget all that 'targeted booing shite - it is the general negativity effecting all players).  They are afraid to receive the ball, to try anything positive for fear of making mistakes etc.  You are quite right that clapping them won't suddenly make them a good team.  But encouragement is far more likely to contribute to a better performance than booing.  Surely you can't dispute that?

The team have received fantastic support, absolutely unbelievable support for 3 quarters of this season and it's done nothing to lift the team. More than that, it seems to have been thrown back in the fans' faces by several players. How could we possibly play worse?

28/10/2015 I have a clear memory of it being 10 minutes into the game at 0-0 when we started singing 'We're fucking shit'. That wasn't the first time, and it has been done all season since. So can we put to bed the sanctimonious myth of our incredibly patient support?

So basically 10 or so games in to another bad run during the 6th season of continous poor form and bad runs? But were not patient? Yeah, Ok.
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It was a League Cup game on the back of 6 straight league defeats. Bastard fickle Villa fans.

[peter w]

They may well be nervous, and booing may well make it worse for them. But it is lack of application that got us relegated.

After how the majority of players have played all season why should we care if they are a bit nervous now. What they have done is not good enough and it's fine to show them this with full force for a time limited period for the next few games.

It's not the lack of application it's the general lack of ability. We're not bottom because players can't be bothered. We're bottom because we're not good enough.

[Chico Hamilton III]

They may well be nervous, and booing may well make it worse for them. But it is lack of application that got us relegated.

After how the majority of players have played all season why should we care if they are a bit nervous now. What they have done is not good enough and it's fine to show them this with full force for a time limited period for the next few games.

It's not the lack of application it's the general lack of ability. We're not bottom because players can't be bothered. We're bottom because we're not good enough.

And we don't work hard enough. Stats will confirm that

[aj2k77]

6 straight defeats? Is that all? Fickle sugar bags.

Someone posted some stats yesterday. 4 of our 5 worst runs of straight defeats in our history have been during the last 4 years.

Take the Lerner route of trying to downplay everyone's expectations to the point of where this is acceptable. I'll take the route of it's a bloody stain on our history and the antics of the current squad have made them despicable and unsupportable.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

They may well be nervous, and booing may well make it worse for them. But it is lack of application that got us relegated.

After how the majority of players have played all season why should we care if they are a bit nervous now. What they have done is not good enough and it's fine to show them this with full force for a time limited period for the next few games.

It's not the lack of application it's the general lack of ability. We're not bottom because players can't be bothered. We're bottom because we're not good enough.

The players have not pulled their weight. Looking at the various squads in the league at the start of the season, would you have said we had a worse squad than all the other teams? I wouldn't have.

Not top 10 but there is no way we should have been bottom 3, player application is a massive part of that.

[aj2k77]

They may well be nervous, and booing may well make it worse for them. But it is lack of application that got us relegated.

After how the majority of players have played all season why should we care if they are a bit nervous now. What they have done is not good enough and it's fine to show them this with full force for a time limited period for the next few games.

It's not the lack of application it's the general lack of ability. We're not bottom because players can't be bothered. We're bottom because we're not good enough.

No, there have been more than enough examples, even highlighted in the media this season where players have strolled around the pitch contributing nothing. There is definitely a lack of effort in some quarters. Especially at the top.