Press-ing over

[dave.woodhall]

Feel free to debate the bit at the bottom.

 http://thebirminghampress.com/2016/04/almost-there-2/

[wozwebs]

With the 27,000 comment does that mean that for attendances they automatically count all season ticket holders as being in attendance?

You can settle an argument as my mate said this the other day and I argued that they only count the amount of people who actually come through the gates?

[dave.woodhall]

With the 27,000 comment does that mean that for attendances they automatically count all season ticket holders as being in attendance?

You can settle an argument as my mate said this the other day and I argued that they only count the amount of people who actually come through the gates?

It's tickets sold, and has been officially in the Premier League since about 1996 and unofficially for a long time before then.

[PeterWithesShin]

Unlike the old days when they wouldn't count a lot of the people going through the turnstiles.

[four fornicholl]

Its a tax thing

[peter w]

As for the last bit I'm not sure who their last 3 managers have been but yes they probably would have us relegated into the Championship also. Pithiness aside I don't think there are managers at many clubs who couldn't have achieved as much as our last 3 managers have. 

[PeterWithesShin]

Clark, Hughton and Rowett?

[conman]

I think we would have gone down last season or the season before with Lee Clark as manager

[peter w]

hughton was that recent?

[conman]

hughton was that recent?

fairly

[PeterWithesShin]

hughton was that recent?

its Houghton

No it isn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton

[tomd2103]

Clark is a disaster as a manager, but I can't see Hughton and Rowett being any worse than the clowns we have had in charge.  For what it's worth, I agree with Moyes as first choice and Hughton second.

[OzVilla]

Lambert was as big a disaster as Clark was for the Noses. 

The losing mentality and dreadful signings were mainly under his tenure.  Absolute buffoon.

[brian green]

As a keen reader of omens I don't know whether the close similarity of the names of Hughton and Houghton would be a good thing.  Eric the Villa legend, bandy legged thunderboots, last Villa manager to lift the FA Cup, got us relegated but knew and would sing "An Old Shirt of Claret and Blue".  If Chris comes Eric will doubtless get as many name checks in these pages as Kieran Clarke and Randy Learner.

[Rioch is King]

Is the third division Villa side you are thinking of the one that beat Man Utd over two legs  in the league cup semi final and lost narrowly to Spurs in the final?