Remi- It has happened.

[maigrait]

Guardian View - which everyone was thinking.... (* apologies if posted elsewhere *)

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/mar/30/remi-garde-aston-villa-poor-fit-randy-lerner

[gpbarr]

According to Wikipedia there have been nearly 350 Premier League Managers/Caretaker Managers since the start of the Premier League.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_managers

I doubt Garde would get into the top 300.

A BBC view.

Remi Garde: How does his record compare with the Premier League's worst?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35876601

Whatever the reasons, his record is indefensible.

Put Sir AF in a pile of stinking shit and it will stil end up stinking like shit.

It's relative of course, but Fergie was dumped in a pile of shit when he joined Man United in 86(?), player power, drinking culture, acceptance of mediocrity, a big club on the slippery slope. But he had a proven track record at Aberdeen and wasted no time in letting the players know who the boss was. Are you saying Fergie wouldn't have sorted our players out and got more than 2 wins in that time?

With one key difference - Fergie was given an almost unlimited budget (in those days) to go get who he wanted. And he did. Remi was given jack.

[Chico Hamilton III]

According to Wikipedia there have been nearly 350 Premier League Managers/Caretaker Managers since the start of the Premier League.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_managers

I doubt Garde would get into the top 300.

A BBC view.

Remi Garde: How does his record compare with the Premier League's worst?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35876601

Whatever the reasons, his record is indefensible.

Put Sir AF in a pile of stinking shit and it will stil end up stinking like shit.

It's relative of course, but Fergie was dumped in a pile of shit when he joined Man United in 86(?), player power, drinking culture, acceptance of mediocrity, a big club on the slippery slope. But he had a proven track record at Aberdeen and wasted no time in letting the players know who the boss was. Are you saying Fergie wouldn't have sorted our players out and got more than 2 wins in that time?

With one key difference - Fergie was given an almost unlimited budget (in those days) to go get who he wanted. And he did. Remi was given jack.

Of course. But I thought your point was that nobody could have done a better job than Garde? Which is what I disagree with.

[gpbarr]

According to Wikipedia there have been nearly 350 Premier League Managers/Caretaker Managers since the start of the Premier League.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_managers

I doubt Garde would get into the top 300.

A BBC view.

Remi Garde: How does his record compare with the Premier League's worst?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35876601

Whatever the reasons, his record is indefensible.

Put Sir AF in a pile of stinking shit and it will stil end up stinking like shit.

It's relative of course, but Fergie was dumped in a pile of shit when he joined Man United in 86(?), player power, drinking culture, acceptance of mediocrity, a big club on the slippery slope. But he had a proven track record at Aberdeen and wasted no time in letting the players know who the boss was. Are you saying Fergie wouldn't have sorted our players out and got more than 2 wins in that time?

With one key difference - Fergie was given an almost unlimited budget (in those days) to go get who he wanted. And he did. Remi was given jack.

Of course. But I thought your point was that nobody could have done a better job than Garde? Which is what I disagree with.

No that wasn't my point. How could you or I possibly know that, given neither of us have the power to predict the future based on the past?

[Chico Hamilton III]

Fair enough, I thought you were implying that even a world class manager like Fergie couldn't have done any better with the current Villa team than Garde.

[gpbarr]

Fair enough, I thought you were implying that even a world class manager like Fergie couldn't have done any better with the current Villa team than Garde.

No I'm saying we don't know if a world class manager like Fergie would have done better. Given the shower of shit surrounding them, unlikely in my opinion - which is likely where we disagree.

[old man villa fan]

Very disappointed with Garde not working out. I thought that we could change our living in the past attitude to football and move on into the modern era.

Poor transfer policy in the summer, coupled with poor preparation and injuries that highlighted the first point, Garde came in to a split squad. He identified the issues but was not given sufficient backing in January.

How anybody can honestly say he failed with the above stacked against him, I don't know. With a blinkered view of not taking all things together, people can be critical but the 'perfect storm' was too much for anybody. Failure was our destiny from the end of last season.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

I hope Remi passes on the cattle prod to the next person to take the reins.

[TopDeck113]

According to Wikipedia there have been nearly 350 Premier League Managers/Caretaker Managers since the start of the Premier League.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_managers

I doubt Garde would get into the top 300.

A BBC view.

Remi Garde: How does his record compare with the Premier League's worst?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35876601

Whatever the reasons, his record is indefensible.

Put Sir AF in a pile of stinking shit and it will stil end up stinking like shit.

It's relative of course, but Fergie was dumped in a pile of shit when he joined Man United in 86(?), player power, drinking culture, acceptance of mediocrity, a big club on the slippery slope. But he had a proven track record at Aberdeen and wasted no time in letting the players know who the boss was. Are you saying Fergie wouldn't have sorted our players out and got more than 2 wins in that time?

With one key difference - Fergie was given an almost unlimited budget (in those days) to go get who he wanted. And he did. Remi was given jack.

Fergie was also given the time, despite sections of both the media and the home support deciding enough was enough.

[Jimbo]

Also, when Ferguson started at Man United, the players weren't all arrogant, self-entitled millionaires with more power than the manager and zero respect for their club. By the time they had grown into that grotesque manifestation of a footballer, he had established Man United as a world power. They were not a fading institution living on past glories.

[Risso]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

[robbo1874]

Just thinking the most appropriate way to encapsulate our season on the review DVD might be that Christmas Special thing they did with Richards laughing his head off. I can't help but feel he's been a voice for negativity and dissent in the backroom. I might be totally wrong though.

crash bang wallop- what a video!

[gpbarr]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

[pauliewalnuts]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

Considering he was there 25 years, that's still early on, surely?

[PeterWithesShin]

Fergie also finished second in the league very early on, proving that he was worth the time.

After nearly 2 years in the job actually

So his first full season, which is early on.