Remi- It has happened.

[Risso]

Garde may go on to rebuild his reputation and career elsewhere, but I have to say that even allowing for the shitstorm he inherited, he performed absolutely dismally. Yes the likes of Richards and Agbonlahor have been taking the piss, but what player actually improved and looked like they wanted to play for Garde? He couldn't even get the best out of the French lads, with the likes of Veretout not getting in the team ahead of the woeful Westwood.

Long before he left, he was moping around in a half-arsed way as bad as the players. Time for this much vaunted new board to step up.

[ozzjim]

He gave up at the end of January. I was with him and admired his dignity but he has been sulking for weeks.

[Diablo]

Li'l Lee Hendry is going to give us the benefit of his wisdom after eight on 5Live Breakfast.

Thanks for the heads up. Just managed to catch the tail end of what Lilil Lee had to say. Said it was Pearson or Moyes as the replacement for him (a worry to me that he said Pearson first and on more than one occasion). Was singing the praises of Brian Little, saying what a mess it has been the last 4 years or so. What a different beast the Championship is to the Prem.

He also said we have some quality players at the club.

Even more worrying! Jeeez!

[kippaxvilla2]

For all the sympathy for Remi the following is shocking to be honest.

Garde went after a run of six successive defeats. Villa’s plight was already worrying when he took over but it has worsened alarmingly on his watch. They had four points from their first 11 games, but that was only four fewer than Bournemouth. Now they are separated by 30 points.

[Tayls_7]

For all the sympathy for Remi the following is shocking to be honest.

Garde went after a run of six successive defeats. Villa’s plight was already worrying when he took over but it has worsened alarmingly on his watch. They had four points from their first 11 games, but that was only four fewer than Bournemouth. Now they are separated by 30 points.

That's right Kippax but what many fans believe you have witnessed over Garde's tenure is a demonstration of player power of the most unacceptable type.

[oldtimernow]

perhaps he would have done better if he had played himself in at least 5 positions in the side at the same time

at least his instructions might have been carried out that way

[Chico Hamilton III]

On the topic of Remi Garde's "failure" and the ecstacy generated in many quarters by his departure,

I'm not sure anyone's ecstatic at seeing another manager fail at Villa. Unless I missed something?
 
if Garde is as good a many people have been saying, then he should have no trouble in getting a better job than the one he's just lost so good luck to him. A few on here were hinting at him being Wenger-esque so maybe he'll get the Arsenal gig.

[ozzjim]

I would not be surprised to see him do very well elsewhere Chico. I think this was just too big a job for him. Maybe we needed someone like Pearson when Garde got it, but he is not what we need now.

[Ad@m]

That's right Kippax but what many fans believe you have witnessed over Garde's tenure is a demonstration of player power of the most unacceptable type.

Either way, like it or not, we need a manager in now who can deal with the shitstorm that is Aston Villa these days.  Under normal circumstances none of us would want Pearson/Dyche/Pulis/Bruce etc but they're exactly the sort of been-there-done-that managers we need to come in, sort out the players who think they own the place, sort out the shambolic behind the scenes running of the place and start the process of getting us back to where we should be.

Once the club's back on an even keel and heading back in the right direction, that's the time to bring in a Garde-type manager.

[AVFC Tom]

David Moyes is that the man I want. It would show ambition that we have money to spend to get us back into the Premier league at our first attempt; which wouldn't necessarily be the case if we were to appoint Pearson. As for Garde, it was the wrong man to bring in and I think we knew that from the day he arrived. He had a chance to at least give us half a chance after beating Norwich, but we've been dreadful since then and he had to go.

Good luck in the future Remi - it certainly won't be at Arsenal

[DaveD]

The club gave them extra time off over Easter.  I don't suppose it stipulated they stay home and cut the grass as part of the deal.

The club might not have explicitly said "don't do anything fucking stupid to get yourself in the papers" but you have to be particularly thick not to understand that is implied.

[PeterWithesShin]

In fairness to the players, they went away for a few days and went out one night and got photographed. It was hardly a long weekend of debauchery that dragged the club's name through the mud. It probably wasn't the brightest thing for them to bugger off like that but they weren't misbehaving as far as we know.

Richards and Gabby are still a pair of plums mind.

[django]

On the topic of Remi Garde's "failure" and the ecstacy generated in many quarters by his departure, I am struck by the picture of a man failing his driving test.

He turns up at the test centre expecting Avis to have provided a roadworthy, legal vehicle to take the test.  Instead he finds a clapped out old banger with no brakes, flat tyres and no steering wheel.  When told that it is all that was available he asks for the keys.  No keys he is told, you will have to hope your route starts with a downhill slope so you can bump start the engine.  He does his best but half way through the test other drivers start ramming him and the test inspector calls a halt to the proceedings and Remi is told to go home.

That is in my mind the "failure" of Remi Garde.  I wish him well in his future career and admire him for sticking the 147 days with such dignity.

But we weren't giving him the job as a test to see if he could do it. He was supposed to be able to 'drive' when he arrived. We were a rusty old banger with no brakes when he got the job. If he could only work with good players and the club running in a proper fashion he was the wrong appointment, as he proved to be.

If people want to judge him in a hypothetical scenario where we had better players then fair enough. But in the actual situation he was hired in, he failed.

And it doesn't give me any pleasure in the slightest as we really needed his appointment to work out. And it didn't. And now we are going to be relegated.

[sickbeggar]

In fairness to the players, they went away for a few days and went out one night and got photographed. It was hardly a long weekend of debauchery that dragged the club's name through the mud. It probably wasn't the brightest thing for them to bugger off like that but they weren't misbehaving as far as we know.

Richards and Gabby are still a pair of plums mind.

yep. As far as i can work out they were allowed to go and it was over EASTER when the rest of us were off eating eggs anyway. Press inspired shit-stirring which our fans went for big time

[ktvillan]

On the topic of Remi Garde's "failure" and the ecstacy generated in many quarters by his departure, I am struck by the picture of a man failing his driving test.

He turns up at the test centre expecting Avis to have provided a roadworthy, legal vehicle to take the test.  Instead he finds a clapped out old banger with no brakes, flat tyres and no steering wheel.  When told that it is all that was available he asks for the keys.  No keys he is told, you will have to hope your route starts with a downhill slope so you can bump start the engine.  He does his best but half way through the test other drivers start ramming him and the test inspector calls a halt to the proceedings and Remi is told to go home.

That is in my mind the "failure" of Remi Garde.  I wish him well in his future career and admire him for sticking the 147 days with such dignity.

I agree with this to an extent and I was a keen advocate of a foreign, forward thinking coach when names like Allardyce and Pearson were being touted.   However I also have some sympathy with Risso's view that despite the shit hand he was dealt, and the possible betrayal over January signings,  apart from a brief spell before and during the window where there were signs of fight and possible recovery, he failed to inspire the players, rally the dressing room and weed out the bad eggs.  Obviously part of the problem was that there are more bad eggs than good, but I would happily have seen Richards and co. forming a new bomb squad and some of the youngsters given a go. It's also mystifying why he would do things like play JustEad and not plan to pump crosses into him all day long.    I think he just gave up after January and waited for the train wreck, which is disappointing.  I still think he could have been the right man for us but it was the worst time imaginable for him to be taking over.  Given the players we have it may well have been better to get a brute like Pearson in, the kind of boss who might have taken the likes of Richards behind the dressing rooms, pinned him up against the wall and threatened to punch his lights out if he didn't stop dicking about.