Remi- It has happened.

[Cleybrooke]

now?

[Villa in Denmark]

Does anyone follow 'Everything Aston Villa' on facebook?

There was a post earlier today about Remi from one of the Admins who claimed he knows someone who lives with one of our youngsters.  The post has wisely been pulled, but the comments (allegedly made by the player) about the manager were very damning.

I know its a 'my uncles cleaner' type thing, bit for an Admin of a page with over 10k followers to make a post like that is worrying. 

Can you give some intel on what was actually said?

In a nutshell he said he knew someone who lived with one of our young players (he did name him which wasn't the brightest thing to do) and the player had said that Garde was terrible - doesn't always take part in training, poor communicator, did't even give this lad any instructions when he went on as sub in a game.  etc.  It was fairly damning stuff really.  But could all be bullshit which is why I thought it odd an admin of a page like that would stick their neck out on it.

Given the largely unheeded screams to play the youngsters, it's a very small pool someone is trying to hide in.

Re the doesn't always take part in training, Very few managers do. That's why they employ coaches. To carry out the training after their instructions. O'Neill was notorious for not turning up until Thursday morning.

Poor communicator? He's the most coherent, intelligible manager we've had since Little -> Gregory-> SGT II.

Unless people prefer, "honest bunch of lads, but we just can't compete with likes of Charlton, which is triffic, just triffic for some someone like me who's an attacking manager has gone again, but don't worry because Tim Sherwood is here to shake them up with some self serving platitudes"

All served up with a reassuring blend of accents from around the UK.

[chrisw1]

I don't disagree with you.  But by poor communication, the post inferred that Remi literally very rarely spoke to the players about tactics etc.  But more importantly, if I was a youngster about to make an appearance in a massive game, I would probably hope for a few words of wisdom from the manager either before the game or as I am about to go on in terms of what he expected etc.  The claims made were that he didn't say a word, just 'on you go.'  If true, I think that would be worrying.  But I guess it's probably a fairly big 'if.'  As I said the post has been deleted now so I can't quote it verbatim.

[auntiesledd]

Does anyone follow 'Everything Aston Villa' on facebook?

There was a post earlier today about Remi from one of the Admins who claimed he knows someone who lives with one of our youngsters.  The post has wisely been pulled, but the comments (allegedly made by the player) about the manager were very damning.

I know its a 'my uncles cleaner' type thing, bit for an Admin of a page with over 10k followers to make a post like that is worrying. 

Can you give some intel on what was actually said?

In a nutshell he said he knew someone who lived with one of our young players (he did name him which wasn't the brightest thing to do) and the player had said that Garde was terrible - doesn't always take part in training, poor communicator, did't even give this lad any instructions when he went on as sub in a game.  etc.  It was fairly damning stuff really.  But could all be bullshit which is why I thought it odd an admin of a page like that would stick their neck out on it.

Given the largely unheeded screams to play the youngsters, it's a very small pool someone is trying to hide in.

Re the doesn't always take part in training, Very few managers do. That's why they employ coaches. To carry out the training after their instructions. O'Neill was notorious for not turning up until Thursday morning.

Poor communicator? He's the most coherent, intelligible manager we've had since Little -> Gregory-> SGT II.

Unless people prefer, "honest bunch of lads, but we just can't compete with likes of Charlton, which is triffic, just triffic for some someone like me who's an attacking manager has gone again, but don't worry because Tim Sherwood is here to shake them up with some self serving platitudes"

All served up with a reassuring blend of accents from around the UK.

I get what you're saying there VID, however Remi's record has effectively sealed his fate - and any club would pull the trigger (irrespective of the extenuating circumstances). I know the circumstances differ, somewhat,but my (now) local club B&HA lost their way relatively recently when they banked on an inexperienced overseas manager to stop the rot: & it was only when they brought in an experienced British manager (Chris Houghton) - with a track record of organising, motivating and getting Championship teams promoted - that their  fortunes were significantly improved. I'm not suggesting we should wave a wad & bang on about our size & history to turn CH's bonce (I think he realises that he's already got a good thing going where he is anyway), but I personally think that an experienced & talented home-grown manager would stand a better chance of bringing about some stability & much-needed positivity on the pitch that many of us crave. All we need now is somebody good enough & mad enough to take the hitherto poisoned chalice...

[Villa in Denmark]

Auntiesledd, my point above wasn't about whether he should stay or go, but whether the story is a big load of hairy gonads.

My gut instinct until Saturday was he should be given at least to Christmas, but the team selections are starting to resemble the Sherwood pin the tail on the donkey.

There's absolutely no benefit to anyone other than Garde himself in sacking him now, and if he wants to walk, he knows where the door is. Let him stay until the end of the season, but unless by some miracle he can start to show signs of the putative indications of defensive cohesion and robustness in midfield that it looked like we'd started to find in January then I think that a parting of the ways is inevitable.

[SheffieldVillain]

I get what you're saying there VID, however Remi's record has effectively sealed his fate - and any club would pull the trigger (irrespective of the extenuating circumstances). I know the circumstances differ, somewhat,but my (now) local club B&HA lost their way relatively recently when they banked on an inexperienced overseas manager to stop the rot: & it was only when they brought in an experienced British manager (Chris Houghton) - with a track record of organising, motivating and getting Championship teams promoted - that their  fortunes were significantly improved. I'm not suggesting we should wave a wad & bang on about our size & history to turn CH's bonce (I think he realises that he's already got a good thing going where he is anyway), but I personally think that an experienced & talented home-grown manager would stand a better chance of bringing about some stability & much-needed positivity on the pitch that many of us crave. All we need now is somebody good enough & mad enough to take the hitherto poisoned chalice...

Is Hughton doing a good job because he's British or because he's a good manager?

Carvalhal at Wednesday has no track record of getting teams promoted but has significantly improved Sheff Wed.

A good manager is a good manager.

[auntiesledd]

Auntiesledd, my point above wasn't about whether he should stay or go, but whether the story is a big load of hairy gonads.

My gut instinct until Saturday was he should be given at least to Christmas, but the team selections are starting to resemble the Sherwood pin the tail on the donkey.

There's absolutely no benefit to anyone other than Garde himself in sacking him now, and if he wants to walk, he knows where the door is. Let him stay until the end of the season, but unless by some miracle he can start to show signs of the putative indications of defensive cohesion and robustness in midfield that it looked like we'd started to find in January then I think that a parting of the ways is inevitable.

Aha. I evidently didn't get what you were saying at all! That'll teach me for coming in on an ongoing debate that I haven't caught up on. After a cuppla 3 sherbets (obviously). My humble apologies to you good Sir. UTV.

[adrenachrome]

When the next manager says Gabby is on fire in training you won't need Bill Shakespeare to pen the script for the inevitable tragedy that will ensue.

[auntiesledd]

I get what you're saying there VID, however Remi's record has effectively sealed his fate - and any club would pull the trigger (irrespective of the extenuating circumstances). I know the circumstances differ, somewhat,but my (now) local club B&HA lost their way relatively recently when they banked on an inexperienced overseas manager to stop the rot: & it was only when they brought in an experienced British manager (Chris Houghton) - with a track record of organising, motivating and getting Championship teams promoted - that their  fortunes were significantly improved. I'm not suggesting we should wave a wad & bang on about our size & history to turn CH's bonce (I think he realises that he's already got a good thing going where he is anyway), but I personally think that an experienced & talented home-grown manager would stand a better chance of bringing about some stability & much-needed positivity on the pitch that many of us crave. All we need now is somebody good enough & mad enough to take the hitherto poisoned chalice...

Is Hughton doing a good job because he's British or because he's a good manager?

Carvalhal at Wednesday has no track record of getting teams promoted but has significantly improved Sheff Wed.

A good manager is a good manager.

Fair comment SV. It's high time The Wendy's had a somebody at the helm who gave them something to genuinely feel positive about of a match day. What's Carvalhal's history that evidently makes him a good manager?

[SheffieldVillain]

I get what you're saying there VID, however Remi's record has effectively sealed his fate - and any club would pull the trigger (irrespective of the extenuating circumstances). I know the circumstances differ, somewhat,but my (now) local club B&HA lost their way relatively recently when they banked on an inexperienced overseas manager to stop the rot: & it was only when they brought in an experienced British manager (Chris Houghton) - with a track record of organising, motivating and getting Championship teams promoted - that their  fortunes were significantly improved. I'm not suggesting we should wave a wad & bang on about our size & history to turn CH's bonce (I think he realises that he's already got a good thing going where he is anyway), but I personally think that an experienced & talented home-grown manager would stand a better chance of bringing about some stability & much-needed positivity on the pitch that many of us crave. All we need now is somebody good enough & mad enough to take the hitherto poisoned chalice...

Is Hughton doing a good job because he's British or because he's a good manager?

Carvalhal at Wednesday has no track record of getting teams promoted but has significantly improved Sheff Wed.

A good manager is a good manager.

Fair comment SV. It's high time The Wendy's had a somebody at the helm who gave them something to genuinely feel positive about of a match day. What's Carvalhal's history that evidently makes him a good manager?

No idea. I'd never heard of him before this season.

(I should add that although still SheffieldVillain on here, I signed up with the username when I was at uni in Sheffield and haven't actually lived there since 2007 so don't really follow the Sheffield teams' fortunes)

[tomd2103]

I hope we are looking ahead and that a manager will be brought in not only to get us out of the Championship next season, but also to establish back in the Premier League two of three seasons after that. 

[ChicagoLion]

When the next manager says Gabby is on fire in training you won't need Bill Shakespeare to pen the script for the inevitable tragedy that will ensue.

No, it probably means he has crashed the burger van at Bodymoor Heath.

[Bottom Right 89]

For christs sake what are they waiting for? Put him out of his misery, he should have gone Saturday night.

[mr underhill]

maybe he isn't going - at all, or at least not until the end of the season. There could easily be a relegation clause in his contract, given our previous experiences, which limits compensation.

[eddiemunster]

When the next manager says Gabby is on fire in training you wont need to get the fire brigade, just some more petrol.

Fixed!!!!!lol.