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Offline Risso

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #120 on: March 10, 2016, 03:59:33 PM »
Is there any other industry where such a lack of talent is so well rewarded?
Boy bands.

Law firms 😉

Offline ASHTONVILLA

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #121 on: March 10, 2016, 04:03:07 PM »
Is there any other industry where such a lack of talent is so well rewarded?
Boy bands.

Law firms 😉

Politics

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #122 on: March 10, 2016, 04:03:41 PM »
Is there any other industry where such a lack of talent is so well rewarded?
Boy bands.

Law firms 😉

London Stock Exchange/Wall Street

Offline Richard E

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #123 on: March 10, 2016, 04:06:04 PM »
Is there any other industry where such a lack of talent is so well rewarded?
Boy bands.

Law firms 😉

I must be in the "talented but underpaid" sector of the market.

Offline Herman

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #124 on: March 10, 2016, 04:09:15 PM »
Lerner just seems to be total numbskull who surrounds himself with total fuckwits who systematically bleed him dry. How the hell he has any money left is beyond me.

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #125 on: March 10, 2016, 04:10:53 PM »
It would be nice to have a full day of uninterrupted good news at Aston Villa. The last time was probably the FA Cup semi-final.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #126 on: March 10, 2016, 04:23:42 PM »
Lerner just seems to be total numbskull who surrounds himself with total fuckwits who systematically bleed him dry. How the hell he has any money left is beyond me.

He hasn't a clue how to run a football club, he probably buys all the smooth talk and jargon spouted by people who sound like they know what they're on about, because he doesn't know what he's on about.

Offline DaveD

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #127 on: March 10, 2016, 04:38:45 PM »
Is there any other industry where such a lack of talent is so well rewarded?
Boy bands.

Law firms 😉

Politics

Oi ! I'm worth every penny of that £3400/year !

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #128 on: March 10, 2016, 04:40:24 PM »
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 04:49:39 PM by olaftab »

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #129 on: March 10, 2016, 04:43:49 PM »
As others have said, turnover all round is down slightly at £115m compared to £116m last year.  Gate receipts and sponsorship were slightly up, TV and commercial down, with the commercial bit showing the biggest drop by £3m.

Operating expenses were up by £21m, and when you add in a decrease in the profit on sale of players and interest, the loss for the year increased from £3.8m to £27.3m.

Wages went up by £14m, with £3.3m of exceptional costs, which would be Lambert's pay off, with possibly a small amount for Faulkner.

The highest paid director last year was Faulkner I assume, on £265K.  This year it'll be Fox, and he got, wait for it, £1.3m.  Worth every penny, I'm sure you'll agree.

Other points of interest is that Lerner has written of most of the remaining debt that's owed to the trust/him, with another £84m written off (ie converted to equity).  In addition, he put another £7m in cash in, in return for shares.  Whatever he has done, you can't argue that he's taken money out.  We now only the trus about £10m, and we have a overdraft of £20m.  The issued share capital of the company is therefore £315m, which to get to where we are now, you would have to say is a pretty dismal return.

Other than that, we spent £57.1m on new players in the summer, and recouped £40.5m.

Assuming the majority of the £3.3 million for 'exceptional costs' is for Lamberts pay off, then Fox should be sacked for that. Lambert signed a new deal and was sacked within a few months, that was a hugely unneccessary expense. It also suggests that there's no chance Garde will be sacked, which to be honest I'm happy enough with.

Depends when Fox was appointed though, those records show it as 5th November 2014 even though numerous press reports had us appointing him in August 2014.


Offline brian green

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #130 on: March 10, 2016, 04:44:43 PM »
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Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #131 on: March 10, 2016, 04:46:27 PM »
Fox wasn't responsible for the Lambert contract. That one is all on Lerner.

Interesting that we have reserved £3m to dish out to the board in the event of a sale.

And the disparity on transfers this summer should also prove that we aren't refusing to spend.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #132 on: March 10, 2016, 04:46:42 PM »
It would be nice to have a full day of uninterrupted good news at Aston Villa. The last time was probably the FA Cup semi-final.
In  1957!

Offline glasses

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #133 on: March 10, 2016, 04:55:02 PM »
At least it should put paid to the idea that lerner is somehow bleeding the club dry. He's merely killing the club through incompetence.
Maybe a question for Risso this, and I'm getting second hand information a bit, so apologies in advance if this is nonsense.

Reform Acquisitions Ltd is our uk holding company if I'm not mistaken, and their accounts are on Companies house.

However, Reform Acquisitions LLC is Randy's American business, which is the holding company of Reform Acquisitions Ltd, and as such is not viewable on companies house as it isn't UK registered.

I guess what I'm saying is, do we know for sure Randy isn't taking money through that?

Offline Risso

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Re: The Long Awaited Accounts....
« Reply #134 on: March 10, 2016, 05:45:38 PM »
At least it should put paid to the idea that lerner is somehow bleeding the club dry. He's merely killing the club through incompetence.
Maybe a question for Risso this, and I'm getting second hand information a bit, so apologies in advance if this is nonsense.

Reform Acquisitions Ltd is our uk holding company if I'm not mistaken, and their accounts are on Companies house.

However, Reform Acquisitions LLC is Randy's American business, which is the holding company of Reform Acquisitions Ltd, and as such is not viewable on companies house as it isn't UK registered.

I guess what I'm saying is, do we know for sure Randy isn't taking money through that?

No he isn't. All of the turnover and expenses of the underlying companues are in the Reform UK accounts. Any money distributed to the US would be recorded. The simple fact is that there simply hasn't been the money to take.  He did charge a 7 million management fee early on, but nothing since.

 


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