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Offline tomd2103

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5625 on: May 26, 2016, 11:53:02 AM »
I do find it incredible that given an Ashley run Newcastle is nearly as much of a basket case as us yet unlike us have managed to persuade a top class manager to stay with them and seemingly funds for players isn't going to be an issue.  Yet here we are nearly three months after sacking our manager and we are down to an awe inspiring choice of Di Matteo or Pearson.
Wasn't Benitez reported to have asked similar demands of Randy Lerner when interviewed (after Houllier left I think), which was the reason he wasn't interested. He wants money to spend and he wants to be in sole control and given authority to change the academy set-up to his liking too. In other words, give me all the tools and I will rebuild.
In hindsight it might have turned out cheaper for Randy in the long-run if he'd gone that way with someone of his experience.

To be honest, I'd rather have had Benitez running the club from top to bottom rather than it have been in the hands of Lerner, Faulkner, Fox etc.

Offline Boz

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5626 on: May 26, 2016, 12:09:59 PM »
I'm just hoping that whoever gets the job makes this current bunch of wankers (ie the first team squad) wish they were anywhere but here.

Spot on.

The new manager needs to be able to get rid of all the crap he'll inherit which means Dr X will need deep pockets to pay them off.

Building a new Villa doesn't need a base of crap squad players.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5627 on: May 26, 2016, 12:19:50 PM »
I'm just hoping that whoever gets the job makes this current bunch of wankers (ie the first team squad) wish they were anywhere but here.

Spot on.

The new manager needs to be able to get rid of all the crap he'll inherit which means Dr X will need deep pockets to pay them off.


Which players do you envisage being "paid off"?

Offline manic-road

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5628 on: May 26, 2016, 12:23:51 PM »
no no no no no, Warnock coming in would make it very difficult for me to follow the club, the guy is thoroughly deserving of his well known anagram.  On top of that he's a crap manager who has been quickly found out in pretty much every job he's had, he's the sort of manager I suspect we'd have been looking at if we hadn't been sold.

Crap managers don't achieve seven promotions on very limited resources. We could do worse than Warnock, if he was to manage the Villa which I doubt he would be offered the job at least he knows the league inside out. I would prefer Moyes but it isn't likely to happen.

He knows the league because he's not good enough to manage at any level above it.

And we are not in the league above, we are now officially a Championship team and we need a manager that can get us out of it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5629 on: May 26, 2016, 12:29:38 PM »
And preferably one that can keep us up without a new manager needing to come in late September/early October and waiting until Christmas to start looking at which players he needs to dispose of /recruit.

Has Warnock ever lasted past November in the PL with the exception of his Sheffield United team that were ultimately relegated, albeit under dodgy circumstances.

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5630 on: May 26, 2016, 12:32:58 PM »
I actually like Warnock (not saying I want him to be manager here), heard an interview a couple of weeks ago where he was honest enough to admit the Championship is his level and said he didn't like dealing with some of the egos you encounter once a team is in the Premier League.
Plus I love the fact that when Leeds United boss he was asked to provide his favourite memory to help publicise the launch of a Sporting Memories project in Leeds.

Blades fan
« Last Edit: May 26, 2016, 12:53:55 PM by Chris Jameson »

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5631 on: May 26, 2016, 12:42:51 PM »
And preferably one that can keep us up without a new manager needing to come in late September/early October and waiting until Christmas to start looking at which players he needs to dispose of /recruit.

Has Warnock ever lasted past November in the PL with the exception of his Sheffield United team that were ultimately relegated, albeit under dodgy circumstances.

Which is exactly the problem, as Chris states he's even admitted it himself.

My issue is if we recruit a manager who 'knows the league' and fill the squad with players who 'know the league' then what makes us stand out from all the other sides that have been in the league for years and can't get out?  Add to that the fact that if we do get out we'd need to replace the manager and a lot of those players to stay up you're creating a huge expense purely to get out of the league.

I'd rather we find a way to play that gets us out of the league and sees us better equipped next summer to just need to add extra quality rather than another squad overhaul because, as I warned under Sherwood last summer, clubs who change 10-15 players in the summer very rarely do well the following season, going through that process 3 seasons running is asking for trouble and is why I'd be looking at 5-6 signings this summer, another couple in Janaury and then repeat next year.  That would see 16-17 of the current squad replaced within 2 years but not in such a high risk fashion.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5632 on: May 26, 2016, 12:50:12 PM »
I agree about the high player turnover being a risk. I thought it was a risk worth taking last summer as we badly needed to purge the losing / mediocrity is a high target to shoot for attitude.

Unfortunately, the experience that was retained and imported to hang the promising talents off proved to be more hindrance than help.

If we can build a solid spine from goalkeeper through at least one decent centre back and central midfielder I don't think we'll be too badly positioned, depending on who moves on.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5633 on: May 26, 2016, 12:51:54 PM »
I'm just hoping that whoever gets the job makes this current bunch of wankers (ie the first team squad) wish they were anywhere but here.

Spot on.

The new manager needs to be able to get rid of all the crap he'll inherit which means Dr X will need deep pockets to pay them off.


Which players do you envisage being "paid off"?

I can't see it being any but hopefully most will find somewhere to go

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5634 on: May 26, 2016, 12:58:23 PM »
Seeing as that ugly twat from The Simpsons has ruled himself out, can we have the poll reset or at least the option to revote?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5635 on: May 26, 2016, 01:00:38 PM »
Actually the AV electoral system would be the best way to decide.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5636 on: May 26, 2016, 01:05:48 PM »
I'm just hoping that whoever gets the job makes this current bunch of wankers (ie the first team squad) wish they were anywhere but here.

Spot on.

The new manager needs to be able to get rid of all the crap he'll inherit which means Dr X will need deep pockets to pay them off.


Which players do you envisage being "paid off"?

I can't see it being any but hopefully most will find somewhere to go

There will undoubtedly be a few that we'd rather shift but won't find takers (looking squarely in Gabby's direction), but I get the feeling that some will find somebody stupid enough to buy them (Richards, Guzan) and most of the others will probably be retained.

The likes of Westwood and Bacuna have been fixtures on matchday for every manager we've had since they joined - that doesn't suggest that any new manager's first move is going to be spending millions to get rid of them.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5637 on: May 26, 2016, 01:18:02 PM »
Apparently Guzan has two PL offers and an MLS offer I read yesterday.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5638 on: May 26, 2016, 01:20:17 PM »
Apparently Guzan has two PL offers and an MLS offer I read yesterday.
Has he fuck. The useless bastard.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #5639 on: May 26, 2016, 01:20:47 PM »
There's several players I'd like to see the back of but as a bare minimum I'd like to see Richards and Agbonlahor paid off if we can't offload them to some other idiot. Sad state of affairs that the two most despised and disruptive players were captains of our club during our greatest hour of need.

 


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