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Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2370 on: April 08, 2016, 02:02:20 PM »
Still think it will be Pearson

I've been reading up on Pearson on a Leicester forum and it's certainly opened my eyes to what the man achieved there. Overall it was rare to hear anybody have a bad word to say about him, they pretty much loved him and his record more than stands up for itself. The press do seem to have it in for him and his natural disdain for them made it a pretty predictable outcome. I do wonder how he copes with stress, he takes all the pressure of his players and carries it himself but as the headlines have shown, he looks like he loses it.

Football wise, he actually seems to really know what he's doing. Uses his bench to great effect, great in the transfer window and gets all his players to give 100%. They all seemed to love him too. He may make mistakes but he's a fast learner and those mistakes are never repeated. He'd certainly get us organised from top to bottom, even this squad, as he inherited a similar group of wasters when he took over at Leicester. My only doubt and one raised on the forum was just how well he can cope with the pressure of the Premier League. Right now that's the least of our problems.

Moyes may be a 'name' in football circles but I have serious doubts his ability matches his reputation. Much like MON. More concerning is whether or not he could get us up next season. Given the choice between the two - and I can't believe I'm writing this, I'd feel a lot more confident with Pearson in charge. I actually think he would surprise a lot of people and actually get the job done.

There, I've said it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2371 on: April 08, 2016, 02:12:39 PM »
Still think it will be Pearson

I've been reading up on Pearson on a Leicester forum and it's certainly opened my eyes to what the man achieved there. Overall it was rare to hear anybody have a bad word to say about him, they pretty much loved him and his record more than stands up for itself. The press do seem to have it in for him and his natural disdain for them made it a pretty predictable outcome. I do wonder how he copes with stress, he takes all the pressure of his players and carries it himself but as the headlines have shown, he looks like he loses it.

Football wise, he actually seems to really know what he's doing. Uses his bench to great effect, great in the transfer window and gets all his players to give 100%. They all seemed to love him too. He may make mistakes but he's a fast learner and those mistakes are never repeated. He'd certainly get us organised from top to bottom, even this squad, as he inherited a similar group of wasters when he took over at Leicester. My only doubt and one raised on the forum was just how well he can cope with the pressure of the Premier League. Right now that's the least of our problems.

Moyes may be a 'name' in football circles but I have serious doubts his ability matches his reputation. Much like MON. More concerning is whether or not he could get us up next season. Given the choice between the two - and I can't believe I'm writing this, I'd feel a lot more confident with Pearson in charge. I actually think he would surprise a lot of people and actually get the job done.

There, I've said it.

He's done some very good things, and he has two promotions and even his time at the other clubs he managed weren't all bad by any stretch. He's made a number of very poor, even nasty personal decisions during his managerial career and the question and concern will always be 1) has he learnt from them?, and 2) is there any chance if things didn't go well that they reoccur? The other thing to consider it's not like he was doing well in the PL and then fell apart. I'd be more concerned by that. Something happened at the club where they went from stuttering along looking like relegation certainties and then everything clicked. Sometimes a number of things need to fall into place for things to click, and that side has never looked back. As much people point to his backroom staff being influential, Pearson deserves credit for what happened if we are to also criticise him for how it all looked before the amazing run they went on.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2372 on: April 08, 2016, 02:31:15 PM »
If it's Pearson or McCarthy then Pearson wins. Likewise against Bruce. But Moyes is a better .

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2373 on: April 08, 2016, 02:33:46 PM »
If it's Pearson or McCarthy then Pearson wins. Likewise against Bruce. But Moyes is a better .

Is the correct answer.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2374 on: April 08, 2016, 03:40:26 PM »
Plus if it is Pearson you might as well get him in and let him start killing them now. Why wait.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2375 on: April 08, 2016, 04:24:27 PM »
Still think it will be Pearson

I've been reading up on Pearson on a Leicester forum and it's certainly opened my eyes to what the man achieved there. Overall it was rare to hear anybody have a bad word to say about him, they pretty much loved him and his record more than stands up for itself. The press do seem to have it in for him and his natural disdain for them made it a pretty predictable outcome. I do wonder how he copes with stress, he takes all the pressure of his players and carries it himself but as the headlines have shown, he looks like he loses it.

Football wise, he actually seems to really know what he's doing. Uses his bench to great effect, great in the transfer window and gets all his players to give 100%. They all seemed to love him too. He may make mistakes but he's a fast learner and those mistakes are never repeated. He'd certainly get us organised from top to bottom, even this squad, as he inherited a similar group of wasters when he took over at Leicester. My only doubt and one raised on the forum was just how well he can cope with the pressure of the Premier League. Right now that's the least of our problems.

Moyes may be a 'name' in football circles but I have serious doubts his ability matches his reputation. Much like MON. More concerning is whether or not he could get us up next season. Given the choice between the two - and I can't believe I'm writing this, I'd feel a lot more confident with Pearson in charge. I actually think he would surprise a lot of people and actually get the job done.

There, I've said it.

Agree with all of that. I think he is a better option than Moyes.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2376 on: April 08, 2016, 04:26:42 PM »
Plus if it is Pearson you might as well get him in and let him start killing them now. Why wait.

As others have mentioned, why would any manager want a relegation on their CV. As for 'start killing them', I really don't think that's his style. He apparently moves players on with the minimum of fuss, no bitching, no drama, just thank you very much and out the door.

I know Moyes was known at Everton as 'Dithering Dave' for the time he takes to sign players but no idea how he was at moving them on. I just the impression with Moyes, he'll need a few seasons to get us promoted and it will be really dull while we wait. As somebody defending Moyes on an Everton forum put it, "Moyes is not tactically poor, impotent or inept. Far from it. He is, however, tactically boring." At Man Utd he was called a lot worse and even in Spain, he managed just 12 wins in 42 games. Anyway, everything looks like he's heading to Celtic.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2377 on: April 08, 2016, 04:46:25 PM »
I don't think the Championship is so difficult that any competent manager can get us promoted. I think Moyes would get us promoted first go as would Pearson. Moyes might have a more defined ceiling than Pearson, in that you know we would be very solid after a few years. I don't know what Pearson's ceiling is and he probably has a more evident floor to his ability. Pearson probably has more upside and downside than Moyes is the best way of looking at it.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2378 on: April 08, 2016, 05:15:16 PM »
I don't think the Championship is so difficult that any competent manager can get us promoted. I think Moyes would get us promoted first go as would Pearson. Moyes might have a more defined ceiling than Pearson, in that you know we would be very solid after a few years. I don't know what Pearson's ceiling is and he probably has a more evident floor to his ability. Pearson probably has more upside and downside than Moyes is the best way of looking at it.

A manager that can get us promoted with this bunch of lazy swines? That would be quite a turnaround.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2379 on: April 08, 2016, 05:41:40 PM »
How would we feel if Eric Black was in charge until the summer, when there would be more choice and less compo to pay for anyone who's been sacked?

I think we're about to find out.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2380 on: April 08, 2016, 05:53:42 PM »
If it's Pearson or McCarthy then Pearson wins. Likewise against Bruce. But Moyes is a better .

Is the correct answer.

Curve ball appointment will be Grayson!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2381 on: April 08, 2016, 06:08:53 PM »
I think the Villa job next season will be the easiest ride in all of football.  Remi Garde swallowed the poison chalice down to the last dregs.  Whoever comes in will have a board filled with contrition for the treatment Garde got and they will bend over backwards to avoid being seen to be doing it again.  Most if not all of the shit in the dressing room will have been moved out, good Championship quality players will be brought back off loan, young players will be blooded, injured players will be available, referees will get off our backs, luck will start to balance itself out and most of the opposition will be infinitely less threatening than Premiership sides.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2382 on: April 08, 2016, 06:22:22 PM »
for me:

Moyes>Rodgers>Dyche>Pearson>Coleman>Bruce> (add pretty much another 100 other managers here)>Alardyce>McCarthy> (another 1,000 managers)>...Pulis.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2383 on: April 08, 2016, 06:33:15 PM »
How would we feel if Eric Black was in charge until the summer, when there would be more choice and less compo to pay for anyone who's been sacked?

I hope you're not thinking Pulis Dave?  Sometimes, Managers who get sacked have a can't work, cooling off period. Hopefully, this wouldn't make much difference if they were to drop to the Championship.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #2384 on: April 08, 2016, 06:37:44 PM »
How would we feel if Eric Black was in charge until the summer, when there would be more choice and less compo to pay for anyone who's been sacked?

I hope you're not thinking Pulis Dave?  Sometimes, Managers who get sacked have a can't work, cooling off period. Hopefully, this wouldn't make much difference if they were to drop to the Championship.

Not even in jest.

 


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