I wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!
Quote from: KevinGage on April 14, 2016, 07:44:29 PMQuote from: The Edge on April 14, 2016, 07:25:31 PMQuote from: supertom on April 14, 2016, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Ian J on April 14, 2016, 07:04:55 PMQuote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park. I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him. He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days. Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off. Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either. Well said!
Quote from: The Edge on April 14, 2016, 07:25:31 PMQuote from: supertom on April 14, 2016, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Ian J on April 14, 2016, 07:04:55 PMQuote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park. I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him. He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days. Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off. Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either.
Quote from: supertom on April 14, 2016, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Ian J on April 14, 2016, 07:04:55 PMQuote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park.
Quote from: Ian J on April 14, 2016, 07:04:55 PMQuote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.
Quote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.
That game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.
Would love Nige in now to 'deal' with this kind of thing. Unfortunate Gabby is a victim of the Prem, not particularly bright but it's loads of money. Lost any passion he had for the sport or indeed club. Wait to see him on 'Whatever happened to threads'. At 40 he will be 25 stone and declared bankrupt.
Quote from: walsall villain on April 14, 2016, 07:50:22 PMQuote from: KevinGage on April 14, 2016, 07:44:29 PMQuote from: The Edge on April 14, 2016, 07:25:31 PMQuote from: supertom on April 14, 2016, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Ian J on April 14, 2016, 07:04:55 PMQuote from: Risso on April 14, 2016, 06:58:24 PMThat game under Lambert where we beat Arsenal at the start of the season he was electric. Didn't score himself but tore them apart.It was games like that which gave me hope we still had a fantastic game changing player in the squad. Then we would have nothing for weeks. Now we just have a sorry excuse for a sportsman.The Norwich game the previous season. His two goals. That game was a big step in us staying up. He was awesome then. His fall since has been shocking and what is even sadder than the fact he just doesn't seem willing to give this sort of performance anymore, is the fact that physically he probably can't. His pace has gone. The attitude has gone, the legs have gone and the desire.Probably true but he's 29 years old for fuck sake. The biggest waste of space ever to grace (disgrace) Villa Park. I can think of at least 10 comfortably worse than him. He needs to be moved on, but a decade at the same club is rare these days. Fans talk about loyalty, but when a player struggles for form the talk soon turns to sell him/ pay the fucker off. Guzan and and Gabby have made telling contributions for the club over the years,so whilst I won't excuse their horrid form this year, they aren't deserving of Hodge/ Callaghan levels of abuse either. Well said!Under most circumstances I'd agree with the decade and loyalty point.But loyalty would to me imply someone who'd turned down other opportunities.It would imply someone who gave their all.It would imply someone who put themselves out for the team.However, we're talking about someone who's sleepwalked from one contract extension to the next. No that's not his fault. But it's not as though there's ever been serious outside interest to test his loyalty.We're talking about someone who's been sulking on and off ever since O'Neill left.He got a cob on with Houllier when he said he should lose a few pounds and concentrate on speed.He was a peripheral figure under McLeish, despite playing a lot of games. An approach that continued under Lambert where for 5 or 6 games per season he'd actually remind of the player he used to be and could be when he was arsed enough.We're talking about someone who's basically sat on his arse and watched as the club that took him in as a kid and turned him into someone receiving £50-60K per week for the last however many years has disappeared down the toilet this season.That's not my idea of loyalty. The last 4-5 years have been coming ever closer to my idea of freeloading though.
Quote from: Newby on April 14, 2016, 07:00:19 PMI wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!!Not impossible. A good deal of his demeanour and approach to things these days, at least superficially good tickets a few boxes.It's about the only explanation that would be palatable, as all of the others tend to revolve around various degrees of self aggrandising arsehole.
Quote from: Newby on April 14, 2016, 07:00:19 PMI wonder if he is ill, like depressed? Cue the jokes or sarky comments!! I think he's just pissed off with the club's decline since 2010 and has given up. Mind you he still takes his wages, bless him.