The Mind Numbing Task of the Stoke City v Aston Villa (R) Post Match Thread.

[Toronto Villa]

If I'd bought a classic car, ran it into the ground, crashed it and given it a 'dodgy' spray job, then I 'd expect considerably less money than I paid for it.

So you'd sell Aston Villa for less than £68m? Really?

He's announced to the world he's looking to sell so the power is immediately with any potential buyer.  Even Randy can't believe that he will get the same or more money for a Championship club than he paid for a Premier League club.  And the vast, vast majority of his £300m left the club in the pockets of largely awful footballers - there's nothing left to show for it.

With all that, on what basis should he expect any more than £68m?

Selling it for the same price he bought it for from Doug would be an absolutely horrendous way to come full circle. The debris and carnage in the middle of that circle simply astonishing.

[old man villa fan]

The end will truly be nigh if the fans start to abuse Remi Garde.  He has been royally fucked over since the day he arrived both by the board and the Sherwood rump in the dressing room.   Garde is the first manager I have simultaneously liked and admired since Graham Taylor.

O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, KMac, none of them fit to tie the bootlaces of Joe Mercer, Vic Crowe, Ron Saunders,  Brian Little, Tony Barton or Graham Taylor.

Blaming Remi Garde for not being able to cope with an owner like Lerner, a board like Fox and Hollis and players like Agbonlahor, Guzan, Richards, Lescott and Bacuna (shit stirrers) and Westwood, Clark, Richardson, Gestede, Sinclair and Cissoko (shit players) is like blaming a fire engine driver for a fire.

Agreed, Brian.

There have been some on here that have not been fully on board with Garde's appointment from day one.  They are starting to become more vociferous.

[BC54 VFC]

Most amusing thing at yesterday's game was a guy a couple of rows in front of me reading a book on Kindle during the second-half. The bus ride from The Terrace to the ground was good fun.

[PeterWithesShin]

The pelters that fat lad in the home end was getting during the second half amused me.

[BC54 VFC]

The pelters that fat lad in the home end was getting during the second half amused me.

Saw him from the bus back to the station afterwards; he took great delight in lifting his tee shirt to reveal a very fat stomach when he saw the Villa buses passing (reckon he must be a Geordie in disguise )

[Locko]

The end will truly be nigh if the fans start to abuse Remi Garde.  He has been royally fucked over since the day he arrived both by the board and the Sherwood rump in the dressing room.   Garde is the first manager I have simultaneously liked and admired since Graham Taylor.

O'Leary, O'Neill, Houllier, McLeish, Lambert, Sherwood, KMac, none of them fit to tie the bootlaces of Joe Mercer, Vic Crowe, Ron Saunders,  Brian Little, Tony Barton or Graham Taylor.

Blaming Remi Garde for not being able to cope with an owner like Lerner, a board like Fox and Hollis and players like Agbonlahor, Guzan, Richards, Lescott and Bacuna (shit stirrers) and Westwood, Clark, Richardson, Gestede, Sinclair and Cissoko (shit players) is like blaming a fire engine driver for a fire.

Agreed, Brian.

There have been some on here that have not been fully on board with Garde's appointment from day one.  They are starting to become more vociferous.

What a wonderfully succinct summation. We need something to pin some hope to. In Garde we trust.

[SoccerHQ]

Why would the players be in their cars and not on the coach?

Yeah I thought that. I doubt if Villa players were allowed to turn up at Stoke in their cars.

A couple of years ago I remember Friedel and Heskey made their own way back as they both still lived in Cheshire so no point travelling back down to Bodymoor and then having to drive back up north.

From the comments I would take an educated guess that it came out of the mouth of someone who represented Man. City for quite a while hence him making his own way back home.

[Clampy]

If I'd bought a classic car, ran it into the ground, crashed it and given it a 'dodgy' spray job, then I 'd expect considerably less money than I paid for it.

So you'd sell Aston Villa for less than £68m? Really?

He's announced to the world he's looking to sell so the power is immediately with any potential buyer.  Even Randy can't believe that he will get the same or more money for a Championship club than he paid for a Premier League club.  And the vast, vast majority of his £300m left the club in the pockets of largely awful footballers - there's nothing left to show for it.

With all that, on what basis should he expect any more than £68m?

I've got no qualms with him losing money, that's business. I've also got no qualms with him trying to get back a bit of the money that he invested. If it was your club you would try and do the same.

[martin o`who??]

If I'd bought a classic car, ran it into the ground, crashed it and given it a 'dodgy' spray job, then I 'd expect considerably less money than I paid for it.

So you'd sell Aston Villa for less than £68m? Really?

He's announced to the world he's looking to sell so the power is immediately with any potential buyer.  Even Randy can't believe that he will get the same or more money for a Championship club than he paid for a Premier League club.  And the vast, vast majority of his £300m left the club in the pockets of largely awful footballers - there's nothing left to show for it.

With all that, on what basis should he expect any more than £68m?

I've got no qualms with him losing money, that's business. I've also got no qualms with him trying to get back a bit of the money that he invested. If it was your club you would try and do the same.

Exactly - and market forces dictate that he`ll get nothing like what he paid for us now we`re effectively down.

[Jimbo]

If I'd bought a classic car, ran it into the ground, crashed it and given it a 'dodgy' spray job, then I 'd expect considerably less money than I paid for it.

So you'd sell Aston Villa for less than £68m? Really?

Me? No. But I'm actually interested in Aston Villa. I give a shit. If I were a billionaire whose continued ownership of the club meant it was plunged into ever deeper trouble, then I'd look to offload as soon as possible - regardless of losses - with profound apologies to my fellow Villans.

[Clampy]

If I'd bought a classic car, ran it into the ground, crashed it and given it a 'dodgy' spray job, then I 'd expect considerably less money than I paid for it.

So you'd sell Aston Villa for less than £68m? Really?

Me? No. But I'm actually interested in Aston Villa. I give a shit. If I were a billionaire whose continued ownership of the club meant it was plunged into ever deeper trouble, then I'd look to offload as soon as possible - regardless of losses - with profound apologies to my fellow Villans.

So would I but he has to sell to the right people as well, not just as soon as possible.

[Jimbo]

True, Clampy. I really don't know what's going through his mind, but I doubt it has any real focus on getting us sold at this present moment in time. All he's concerned with right now, probably, is letting Hollis make sure costs are as low as possible in the Championship with a view to a swift return.

My feeling is the club thinks it will be easier to get out of that division than it will be in reality. If plan A fails, plan B will probably involve a much heavier loss on Lerner's part. As a billionaire, he'll be able to take it. The true losers in all this are Villa fans.

[conman]

The pelters that fat lad in the home end was getting during the second half amused me.

Saw him from the bus back to the station afterwards; he took great delight in lifting his tee shirt to reveal a very fat stomach when he saw the Villa buses passing (reckon he must be a Geordie in disguise )

he loves it , probably gets it at every match , and what about  the other prat in the front row who kept pointing at the floor , anyway back to the fat ****** , i found it a bit embarassing at the amount of  stick he was getting as around me there were a few quite fat villa fans

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

True, Clampy. I really don't know what's going through his mind, but I doubt it has any real focus on getting us sold at this present moment in time. All he's concerned with right now, probably, is letting Hollis make sure costs are as low as possible in the Championship with a view to a swift return.

My feeling is the club thinks it will be easier to get out of that division than it will be in reality. If plan A fails, plan B will probably involve a much heavier loss on Lerner's part. As a billionaire, he'll be able to take it. The true losers in all this are Villa fans.

expect he will keep hold of the club now in the hope that he can sell it at the end of next season when we have been promoted........