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Offline DaveD

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #495 on: March 14, 2016, 01:48:46 AM »
Charlton's beach ball protest was pretty good today.

Well done to them. You can make quite an impact with just a few fans and a well-thought out protest.

Wouldn't it be nice...

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #496 on: March 14, 2016, 05:10:12 AM »
Still think the Black Balloons and as they are easy to conceal even the Stazi on the turn styles could not stop them. We had Claret and Blue ones in the good times, Black ones for now.

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #497 on: March 14, 2016, 01:36:27 PM »
1874

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Firmer Action Necessary


Monday 14th March 2016

First of all we think it is only proper to hold our hands up and say we made a mistake. We acted in good faith in postponing the walkout yesterday with no hidden agenda and we felt it was the correct decision at the time.

It is clear though that we were wrong to show the club respect as it was made clear yesterday they have zero respect for us, the supporters. The behaviour seen by club officials at the Tottenham game is disgraceful and is indicative of a power structure failing to take responsibility and it must end. We want this regime changed and we as a collective need to make it happen sooner rather than later.

We have thought long and hard about the criticisms levelled at us for postponing the Tottenham walkout. We are a young protest group learning on the job and we would like to float an idea to you.

We are still happy to proceed with Out the Door on 74, however in light of the recent developments we believe firmer action is needed. The mood we encountered at the ground yesterday certainly suggests that.

Including the usual disappointment and understandable anger aimed at the board, we had the horror show as officials wrestled with ordinary, decent fans wanting to display an inoffensive message. We the supporters are hurting and we should be able to portray that hurt in a peaceful manner. Even the Tottenham Hotspur fans joined in with our Lerner Out songs.

So we are proposing Banners Out on 74. They may think they have control but Aston Villa Football Club is not a dictatorship so let’s give THEM pause for thought this time. This is Villa Park not North Korea. This has to be a democratic movement and we are more than willing to keep working as hard for you as we have intended since our inception.

Our initial alternative proposal would be that fans bring their own banners, of all sorts and of any size. Whether that be a bed sheet, a t-shirt, a tea towel, or even just a piece of A4 paper to visually display to a national audience their disgust. Whatever the size or shape, it doesn’t matter. The cameras will capture it. We will hold them up on the 74th minute and they will stay held until the end of the game. The game is on TV of course, so the visual aspect will be electric and will only serve to further highlight the way our club has been driven in to the gutter.

If you put your faith in us once more we will also be looking at ways in which to assist fans who cannot bring their own. Though we absolutely encourage everyone to have their own say. This has to be your choice, we are still firmly committed to Out the Door on 74 Vs Chelsea if you feel that is correct.

Aston Villa Protest Group.


Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #498 on: March 14, 2016, 01:44:52 PM »
Sounds like a good idea to me.

Offline levico

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #499 on: March 14, 2016, 01:45:19 PM »
At least they are being honest.

They were totally naive in my opinion, taken in by a cheap PR stunt that will end in tears.

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #500 on: March 14, 2016, 01:47:01 PM »
 'This has to be a democratic movement and we are more than willing to keep working as hard for you as we have intended since our inception.'

Blimey, that sounds familiar.

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #501 on: March 14, 2016, 01:48:07 PM »
1874

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Firmer Action Necessary


Monday 14th March 2016

First of all we think it is only proper to hold our hands up and say we made a mistake. We acted in good faith in postponing the walkout yesterday with no hidden agenda and we felt it was the correct decision at the time.

It is clear though that we were wrong to show the club respect as it was made clear yesterday they have zero respect for us, the supporters. The behaviour seen by club officials at the Tottenham game is disgraceful and is indicative of a power structure failing to take responsibility and it must end. We want this regime changed and we as a collective need to make it happen sooner rather than later.

We have thought long and hard about the criticisms levelled at us for postponing the Tottenham walkout. We are a young protest group learning on the job and we would like to float an idea to you.

We are still happy to proceed with Out the Door on 74, however in light of the recent developments we believe firmer action is needed. The mood we encountered at the ground yesterday certainly suggests that.

Including the usual disappointment and understandable anger aimed at the board, we had the horror show as officials wrestled with ordinary, decent fans wanting to display an inoffensive message. We the supporters are hurting and we should be able to portray that hurt in a peaceful manner. Even the Tottenham Hotspur fans joined in with our Lerner Out songs.

So we are proposing Banners Out on 74. They may think they have control but Aston Villa Football Club is not a dictatorship so let’s give THEM pause for thought this time. This is Villa Park not North Korea. This has to be a democratic movement and we are more than willing to keep working as hard for you as we have intended since our inception.

Our initial alternative proposal would be that fans bring their own banners, of all sorts and of any size. Whether that be a bed sheet, a t-shirt, a tea towel, or even just a piece of A4 paper to visually display to a national audience their disgust. Whatever the size or shape, it doesn’t matter. The cameras will capture it. We will hold them up on the 74th minute and they will stay held until the end of the game. The game is on TV of course, so the visual aspect will be electric and will only serve to further highlight the way our club has been driven in to the gutter.

If you put your faith in us once more we will also be looking at ways in which to assist fans who cannot bring their own. Though we absolutely encourage everyone to have their own say. This has to be your choice, we are still firmly committed to Out the Door on 74 Vs Chelsea if you feel that is correct.

Aston Villa Protest Group.


I've read some 'up their own arse' stuff in my time but that's right up there with it.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #502 on: March 14, 2016, 01:51:37 PM »
"How dare they? Who do they think they are? They just want to get in the papers." Etc. Etc.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #503 on: March 14, 2016, 01:53:00 PM »
The Charlton protest was pretty good yesterday. Got the game held up for a few minutes, much TV coverage and pundit reaction and the fans probably felt that someone was looking at listening to them at last. Well done to whoever keeps up the protests at Villa.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #504 on: March 14, 2016, 02:33:05 PM »
That statement is a bit 'up their own arse' but I fully agree with the general sentiment.

Yesterday really pissed me off with the way the club acted. We've won 3 of our last 32 league games and they think it's acceptable to go in mob handed and physically drag a banner off fans that has no obscenities etc on it. Smacks of a 'pay up, sit down and shut the fuck up' attitude which doesn't sit at well with me. Way I feel right now, that could be it for me this season. They want to treat us as c***s then i'll spend my money elsewhere.

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #505 on: March 14, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »
OK - I'm up for this

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #506 on: March 14, 2016, 02:43:23 PM »
I think one of the problems we've got with these protests is that whenever something is suggested or a statement made people refer to it as being 'them' and 'they'. This is US, all as one together, we are all Villa. We need to unify against the ownership and how the club has been run, exactly how we protest is not important. It's a case of either protest, with what everyone else is doing, or don't. People talk about OTD@74 creators being self-important but the way many aren't willing to join in sounds as if it's because it wasn't their idea and they feel they are too important to just be one of many.

Offline conman

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #507 on: March 14, 2016, 02:50:51 PM »
I think one of the problems we've got with these protests is that whenever something is suggested or a statement made people refer to it as being 'them' and 'they'. This is US, all as one together, we are all Villa. We need to unify against the ownership and how the club has been run, exactly how we protest is not important. It's a case of either protest, with what everyone else is doing, or don't. People talk about OTD@74 creators being self-important but the way many aren't willing to join in sounds as if it's because it wasn't their idea and they feel they are too important to just be one of many.
well said mate

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #508 on: March 14, 2016, 02:51:16 PM »
That statement is a bit 'up their own arse' but I fully agree with the general sentiment.

It's also good that they're not just copying somebody else. It's seeing something that happened at the club (the banner kerfuffle) and turning that into the protest. Rather than just saying "Liverpool/Dortmund/Charlton fans did this, we should do it too".

It's a thumbs up from me.

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Re: Out the door on 74
« Reply #509 on: March 14, 2016, 02:56:54 PM »
Thumbs up from me too. It's peaceful in nature, respectful in that it's not telling anyone what they ought to do. Fair play and good luck.

 


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