Out the door on 74

[AVH87]

Lerner seems to vacillate between wanting to sell and not 'being a motivated seller,' so how does stuart 445 or anyone else know what he wants to do this month?

He was attracted by the price Fulham went for in 2013, but we are unlikely to go for anywhere near £200 million.

The appeals of Dancing with the Shunammite seemed to wane after our cup run last year, and it has been mentioned elsewhere that a buy out was close in the summer, only for Lerner himself to pull the plug.

There is genuinely wanting out and then there is the Bill Kenwright version of wanting to sell, which means remaining in place until the next Ice Age.

A bit of respite from the Lerner stuff for a minute, what a terrible purchase that turned out to be. Surely now worth less than a quarter of what Khan paid for them just 3 years ago, with no sign of a return to the PL close.

[PeterWithesShin]

Villa Fans are great when it comes to getting behind the club. Petrov's minute of applause was envied and copied by other clubs.

We copied Bolton.

If you mean for Muamba, i'm pretty sure the first time they did the applause for his shirt number was at VP for THAT McLeish game.

[Richard E]

We're not really going to be overtaken by Bristol Rovers, are we?

No.

[exiled on the wirral!]

We're not really going to be overtaken by Bristol Rovers, are we?

No.

I wouldn't worry about it for a least 18 months.

[stuart445]

1) The Liverpool was a marketing exercise, they were never going to charge £77 they did it to get a reaction which they did, they then announced they weren't going to do that so now the fans will buy more stuff from the club because they feel the club have given them something.

If you read the FSG statement, they're not really even giving them anything. They're giving themselves an excuse not to spend money.

“… we have been driven solely by the desire to return LFC to the pinnacle of football. In the world of modern football, growing the club in a sustainable way is essential to realising this objective... A great many of you have objected strongly to the £77 price level of our most expensive GA seats and expressed a clear expectation that the club should forego any increased revenue from raising prices on GA tickets in the current environment”

Cue three years down the line with Liverpool still mid-table and the owners not spending as much as Man City or Bristol Rovers: "you guys told us that you wanted it this way"

No they haven't given anything back so to speak. What they have done is make it look like they've listened to them, basically the fans now feel like they have a voice so are more happy to spend their money.

[stuart445]

Step back and look at it without emotion

Impossible.

Just because Lerner doesn't give a shit about how we feel doesn't mean we shouldn't remind him of it. Is there such a thing as pointless protest anyway? it's people showing their feelings. Anyway, it's either Lerner getting it from both barrels or Garde. Somebody will be on the end of some dogs' abuse once relegation is confirmed. Will solve nothing but might help a few dozen, hundred, thousand Villa fans let off some steam after being taken for absolute mugs for the last few years

Again read what you are saying. We are protesting to try and get an owner of a limited company who wants to sell to sell. For example if you put your house up for sale if you don't get any offers then you can't sell your house.

No, you read what I'm saying. I don't give a shit about what our legal entity is or whether Lerner wants to sell, I just want to let him know what an absolute twat I think he is.

So give him your money and walk out at 74 minutes then that's sensible isn't it. I hope you think I'm a twat because by the logic of all the people taking part in the protest you owe me £30

[Chris Jameson]

No they haven't given anything back so to speak. What they have done is make it look like they've listened to them, basically the fans now feel like they have a voice so are more happy to spend their money.

I'm struggling to see how you've arrived at that conclusion.

[stuart445]

No they haven't given anything back so to speak. What they have done is make it look like they've listened to them, basically the fans now feel like they have a voice so are more happy to spend their money.

I'm struggling to see how you've arrived at that conclusion.

It's the speed of the U turn that makes it obvious. They have massaged the ego of the Liverpool fans making them feel important, if you feel valued then when you're 50 / 50 about buying something that'll help the vast majority of people.

[claret and blue blood]

Beginning to think this could have some impact   It goes against the grain to leave early but we as fans have to make a statement.

[SoccerHQ]

The goal has to be to get Lerner to drop the asking price imo, yes I know people walking out of games won't achieve that on it's own but it may slightly pose a few questions as to what the custodian of the club is now owning with open mutiny.

Amusing anyway that Lerner buys a premier league club for 64m and could still be demanding 150m for a championship club. I think relegation in itself will force him to lower it to 100m, hopefully they'll be more interest then.

[saunders_heroes]

I think this will only work if we're losing. Can't see many fans wanting to leave if the game is on a knife edge, or (brace yourselves) we're actually winning.

[PeterWithesShin]

I probably won't be at the game, but if I was there's no way i'd leave if we were winning. Halley's Comet appears more often than a home win.

[Louzie0]

I think this will only work if we're losing. Can't see many fans wanting to leave if the game is on a knife edge, or (brace yourselves) we're actually winning.

If 'we're actually winning'.


I'd just like this to happen. UTV!

[amfy]

There is now a suggestion that those who want to protest but don't want to leave, wave white flags (or something white) from 74 minutes.

[appyarryampton]

I used to think SHA was the gift that kept on giving but now it's us.
Now we are looking at some people leaving the ground on 74 minutes and I expect the majority staying (unless we are on the end of a hammering). The Liverpool walk out was 'successful' based on a club trying to move forward with owners using business common sense (knowing the TV deal money is coming) and promoting empathy with its fanbase that provides a ten year waiting list for season tickets.
The only way out for us is Lerner selling.
 Not buying tickets / merchandise / hospitality is the only way he may look for a quick exit but the risk is, as the income reduces more staff and facilities are cut and the wage bill is reduced even further.