Mervyn King joins the Board

[old man villa fan]

The only facts are  2 suits were the only January transfers and people will question if the club knows what they are doing in that case.

They would have at least played it slightly smarter if they acknowledged that "these aren't the kind of transfers fans may have been hoping for..." but they didn't.

The two shouldn't be related, though.  One relates to the running of the club which is fundamental to the future and, as everyone recognises, has been very poor. The other relates to the playing side.

The transfer window was extremely poor in relation to the end of this season. The reason why we did not buy anybody was a combination of reasons, some clear and others open to speculation.

[aj2k77]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

[paul_e]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

[passport1]

The most important priority this season (above all seasons) was remaining in the Premiership. As ever our cluless owner decided that the priority was boardroom reorganisation.

Will someone please tell Randy that when in a hole it is wise go stop digging.

[itbrvilla]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

Calls me a customer.... He's a ******.

[paul_e]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

Calls me a customer.... He's a c***.

except he didn't do that at all.  Someone has already posted the answer he gave was about his experience elsewhere and his reference to customers was perfectly normal in the context.

[Toronto Villa]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

Calls me a customer.... He's a c***.

except he didn't do that at all.  Someone has already posted the answer he gave was about his experience elsewhere and his reference to customers was perfectly normal in the context.

you're right is been blown out of all proportion. And even if he did, it's not that big a deal. We are customers, but in our world we call ourselves fans. They provide a a product and service, we pay for that product and service. And some people when they don't like the product and service decide not to buy it. We're obviously more emotionally tied to the product so it's not like buying a consumer housewares for example. We feel the results when the team doesn't win. At the end of day what he said is far less impactful than whatever role he played in the transfer window. He's not a ****** for either, but it's significantly more damaging not to have acted as a football club chairman when asked to do so.

[paul_e]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

Calls me a customer.... He's a c***.

except he didn't do that at all.  Someone has already posted the answer he gave was about his experience elsewhere and his reference to customers was perfectly normal in the context.

you're right is been blown out of all proportion. And even if he did, it's not that big a deal. We are customers, but in our world we call ourselves fans. They provide a a product and service, we pay for that product and service. And some people when they don't like the product and service decide not to buy it. We're obviously more emotionally tied to the product so it's not like buying a consumer housewares for example. We feel the results when the team doesn't win. At the end of day what he said is far less impactful than whatever role he played in the transfer window. He's not a c*** for either, but it's significantly more damaging not to have acted as a football club chairman when asked to do so.

The transfer window was poor, we needed to strengthen and failed to do so, I agree completely on that but I'd place the blame more broadly on the entire club, I don't think the board or the manager or the players (5 points from watford, sunderland and norwich and we're still in with a decent shout of survival and a far easier sell) have the right to consider themselves immune to criticism for it. I like Garde but I think assuming he was spotless in the window and the board fucked him over is naive.

My ranting on this thread however is limited to comments about their words rather than their actions, from the microscopic inspection of everything looking for something to be upset about to the broader dismissal of everything that's said too many people are just to angry about the window to be remotely rational and I just wish a few people would take a few breaths before they fire off frustrated dismissals of everything the club say.

[Mister E]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

My main gripe is that the two fellas brought onto the board are both accountant-financial specialsits. I'd like to have seen a Chairman come in with more of a focus on strategy-making, operational expertise and possibly some football experience. The signal I take from the appointments is that Mr Lerner wants even more financial control and rigour (perhaps at the expense of long-term focus).
And I realise that my comments may come across as a little binary: I do accept that Hollis may be an accountant with extraordinary strategy-making capabilities.

[Toronto Villa]

The running of the club and the playing side are linked.

yes they are and fixing the problems with the running of the club is therefore just as important as fixing the problems on the pitch.  Hollis and King are 2 attempts to fix the club in the boardroom, but a few on here have already decided that Hollis is a c**t because he hasn't fixed things after 3 fucking weeks.  That's what's wrong with this is for me, I'm not defending the board, I'm defending 2 guys who've barely walked in the door and are already being given shit.  As I said earlier, lets see how things look in 12 months, if everything is still shit by then it will be clear that Hollis will have failed and he will deserve a good share of the blame, posts calling him names and telling him to fuck off then will be totally understandable.

Calls me a customer.... He's a c***.

except he didn't do that at all.  Someone has already posted the answer he gave was about his experience elsewhere and his reference to customers was perfectly normal in the context.

you're right is been blown out of all proportion. And even if he did, it's not that big a deal. We are customers, but in our world we call ourselves fans. They provide a a product and service, we pay for that product and service. And some people when they don't like the product and service decide not to buy it. We're obviously more emotionally tied to the product so it's not like buying a consumer housewares for example. We feel the results when the team doesn't win. At the end of day what he said is far less impactful than whatever role he played in the transfer window. He's not a c*** for either, but it's significantly more damaging not to have acted as a football club chairman when asked to do so.

The transfer window was poor, we needed to strengthen and failed to do so, I agree completely on that but I'd place the blame more broadly on the entire club, I don't think the board or the manager or the players (5 points from watford, sunderland and norwich and we're still in with a decent shout of survival and a far easier sell) have the right to consider themselves immune to criticism for it. I like Garde but I think assuming he was spotless in the window and the board fucked him over is naive.

My ranting on this thread however is limited to comments about their words rather than their actions, from the microscopic inspection of everything looking for something to be upset about to the broader dismissal of everything that's said too many people are just to angry about the window to be remotely rational and I just wish a few people would take a few breaths before they fire off frustrated dismissals of everything the club say.

No Garde has certainly made mistakes. But given where he started and the cards he was dealt, it would have been impossible not to make some. And his judgement would have been primarily based on what he saw and experienced, especially in training. I find him making less mistakes now, he just cannot compensate for the lack of quality.

[Gregorys Boy]

Am still hopeing that this is some sort of bad April Fools joke

[dave.woodhall]

Am still hopeing that this is some sort of bad April Fools joke

That someone with wide business experience and a lifetime of contacts joining the board is a joke? Whyever would you hope that?

[Gregorys Boy]

Am still hopeing that this is some sort of bad April Fools joke

That someone with wide business experience and a lifetime of contacts joining the board is a joke? Whyever would you hope that?

Well first of all look at the state of the country right now.  But more importantly I don't agree with Football club's being run as business's or as capitalist play things.

[dave.woodhall]

Am still hopeing that this is some sort of bad April Fools joke

That someone with wide business experience and a lifetime of contacts joining the board is a joke? Whyever would you hope that?

Well first of all look at the state of the country right now.  But more importantly I don't agree with Football club's being run as business's or as capitalist play things.

You support a Premier League club. I think it's a bit late to cry "Freedom for Tooting."

[Gregorys Boy]

Am still hopeing that this is some sort of bad April Fools joke

That someone with wide business experience and a lifetime of contacts joining the board is a joke? Whyever would you hope that?

Well first of all look at the state of the country right now.  But more importantly I don't agree with Football club's being run as business's or as capitalist play things.

You support a Premier League club. I think it's a bit late to cry "Freedom for Tooting."

Not for much longer! Well Capitalism is unavoidable anyway, you just have to make the best of a bad lot.