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Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2016, 10:46:02 PM »
Who is our head of media relations btw?

Lord Haw Haw starts on Monday

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2016, 10:47:22 PM »
I can only see this as a positive move considering the news that has been comming out of Villa Park recently.
I do not think King would get involved if he believed that the Club is destined for more failure and he will not stand back and let that happen.
He is a smart man and a Villa fan.

ffs, King was an abject failure during his tenure in the Bank of England. He completely failed in his duties to maintain the stability of the financial system in the UK with the net result resulting in a taxpayer funded buyout of toxic corporate institutions to the detriment of living standards throughout the state.

He was probably better as an economist than a Central Banker, but there again, that's not his current portfolio is it?

Offline BC Villain

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2016, 11:45:19 PM »
It should put the asset stripping story to bed at least I suppose.

I wouldn't bank on it (pardon the pun).

I heard some bloke on WM earlier moaning that Mervyn King is too old and another asset stripper like Hollis.

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #138 on: February 05, 2016, 12:02:14 AM »
Fuck off Hollis you c***. Happy enough to talk about a boardroom appointment, but completely silent after failing to back the manager. Twat. 
I also have to agree with this even though I frown upon profanities used in haste.
Excellent rant!

Not really because if Hollis had come out on Tuesday morning and apologised to the fans he'd have been given shit.  If he'd given a list of players that we spoke to and explained exactly why each of them hadn't worked out he'd have been accused of making it up and it being because we didn't offer them enough money.  If he says nothing he's hiding from the fans.  People are pissed at the board and that means there is literally nothing they can do before the summer that will matter one jot to public opinion.  On that basis I'd rather they just got on with the job of making sure that we are in a much better situation this time next year, nothing else is worth their effort and that includes making nice public statements to show that they're thinking of the fans.

The board will be happy to see that however bad things get, and however inept a level that they operate at, that there will always be a level of fan that backs them in their idiocy.  Well done paul_e, you're the sort of fan that the board will be eternally grateful for.  Here, I have some magic beans, would you like to purchase them?

I just think you're so full of your own opinion that they could've said anything and you would've posted the same rant, it's got fuck all to do with me backing them or not and it's a point I've been fairly consistent about for a long time.  I think the regular demands for a 'statement from the board' about everything and the fall out of 'don't tell me show me' whenever they oblige serve as perfect proof that once fans are pissed off there's fuck all the board can say to do anything about it so what's the point?

Can you honestly dispute that you wouldn't have bitched about the board in any of the scenarios I give?  I like the fact that you'd rather be patronising than try to dispute what I said though, that says more than enough for me not to need a 'statement'.

Offline Simon Page

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #139 on: February 05, 2016, 12:06:52 AM »

Brown, King, Adair et al must have been really terrible at their jobs to have fucked the US and Eurozone economies as well.

I suspect you know the answer to that, but if you genuinely believe the implication behind your post then the role Governor of the Bank of England is as pointless and impotent as director of Aston Villa. In which case why bother with either let alone honour and reward them?

Astonishing how the global good times were down to great stewardship and the global collapse due to matters entirely out of our control Guv. Makes ruling so easy eh? We could have mitigated, we could have chosen boring, steady, safe and sustainable over fast, baseless greed. We didn't, or rather the very people you list, among many others, didn't. They lapped it up in the good times but feign victimhood in the bad. Poor powerful, influential, agenda-setting, policy-making, genius, controlling little mites. Who'd have known they were just a mere affectation?

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2016, 12:15:25 AM »

Brown, King, Adair et al must have been really terrible at their jobs to have fucked the US and Eurozone economies as well.

I suspect you know the answer to that, but if you genuinely believe the implication behind your post then the role Governor of the Bank of England is as pointless and impotent as director of Aston Villa. In which case why bother with either let alone honour and reward them?

Astonishing how the global good times were down to great stewardship and the global collapse due to matters entirely out of our control Guv. Makes ruling so easy eh? We could have mitigated, we could have chosen boring, steady, safe and sustainable over fast, baseless greed. We didn't, or rather the very people you list, among many others, didn't. They lapped it up in the good times but feign victimhood in the bad. Poor powerful, influential, agenda-setting, policy-making, genius, controlling little mites. Who'd have known they were just a mere affectation?

I'm on your side. I have no affection for any of the three I mentioned (apart from Brown, maybe. I don't think he did things correctly, and I know he was one of the architects of New Labour and all that they fucked up, I just have an irrational fondness for the tragic*)

But no matter how cautious they'd been, by signing up to this model of financialised capitalism they/we were in line to face the deluge full on. As the more socialised Euro economies proved.

*Insert Villa joke here.

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2016, 12:21:31 AM »

Brown, King, Adair et al must have been really terrible at their jobs to have fucked the US and Eurozone economies as well.

I suspect you know the answer to that, but if you genuinely believe the implication behind your post then the role Governor of the Bank of England is as pointless and impotent as director of Aston Villa. In which case why bother with either let alone honour and reward them?

Astonishing how the global good times were down to great stewardship and the global collapse due to matters entirely out of our control Guv. Makes ruling so easy eh? We could have mitigated, we could have chosen boring, steady, safe and sustainable over fast, baseless greed. We didn't, or rather the very people you list, among many others, didn't. They lapped it up in the good times but feign victimhood in the bad. Poor powerful, influential, agenda-setting, policy-making, genius, controlling little mites. Who'd have known they were just a mere affectation?

I'd say that the entire system was setup to fail and the current government have gone straight back to the exact same model, driving growth through property growth well above the level of inflation is always going to be boom and bust because it forces people to take on debts that are increasingly higher than wages and eventually gets to a point where the market stagnates so some scheme gets thought up to help people get started but that's just a band aid for a few years before the inevitable collapse.  I think it's harsh to blame individuals who were in the system for not doing more to stop it, the problem with property is that once the prices have risen anything you do to suppress further rises (or bring them down) is going to piss the public off so however right you'd be to do it it's political suicide.

Offline aj2k77

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2016, 12:41:28 AM »
It was mentioned 2 months ago that a new Chairman and board member were on the brink of being announced, so I doubt it.

A lot of things are mentioned. It doesn't mean they're true.

But it was because here he is.

And two months ago he wasn't.

Two months ago Fox said we were about to announce a new Chairman and a new board member. If it took them two months to convince someone just to join the board then no wonder we couldn't convince any players to join us. The timing, as per usual, is poor and lacks judgement.

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2016, 12:48:19 AM »
It was mentioned 2 months ago that a new Chairman and board member were on the brink of being announced, so I doubt it.

A lot of things are mentioned. It doesn't mean they're true.

But it was because here he is.

And two months ago he wasn't.

Two months ago Fox said we were about to announce a new Chairman and a new board member. If it took them two months to convince someone just to join the board then no wonder we couldn't convince any players to join us. The timing, as per usual, is poor and lacks judgement.

Maybe, just maybe, something happened to delay the appointment but whatever the reason I still fail to see how appointing a non-executive director to the board of any company can be good, bad or indifferent timing.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 12:51:15 AM by dave.woodhall »

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #144 on: February 05, 2016, 01:16:37 AM »
Fuck off Hollis you c***. Happy enough to talk about a boardroom appointment, but completely silent after failing to back the manager. Twat. 
I also have to agree with this even though I frown upon profanities used in haste.
Excellent rant!

Not really because if Hollis had come out on Tuesday morning and apologised to the fans he'd have been given shit.  If he'd given a list of players that we spoke to and explained exactly why each of them hadn't worked out he'd have been accused of making it up and it being because we didn't offer them enough money.  If he says nothing he's hiding from the fans.  People are pissed at the board and that means there is literally nothing they can do before the summer that will matter one jot to public opinion.  On that basis I'd rather they just got on with the job of making sure that we are in a much better situation this time next year, nothing else is worth their effort and that includes making nice public statements to show that they're thinking of the fans.

The board will be happy to see that however bad things get, and however inept a level that they operate at, that there will always be a level of fan that backs them in their idiocy.  Well done paul_e, you're the sort of fan that the board will be eternally grateful for.  Here, I have some magic beans, would you like to purchase them?

I just think you're so full of your own opinion that they could've said anything and you would've posted the same rant, it's got fuck all to do with me backing them or not and it's a point I've been fairly consistent about for a long time.  I think the regular demands for a 'statement from the board' about everything and the fall out of 'don't tell me show me' whenever they oblige serve as perfect proof that once fans are pissed off there's fuck all the board can say to do anything about it so what's the point?

Can you honestly dispute that you wouldn't have bitched about the board in any of the scenarios I give?  I like the fact that you'd rather be patronising than try to dispute what I said though, that says more than enough for me not to need a 'statement'.

Given the situation we are currently in, I do think Hollis should have released a statement explaining why no one was brought in.  Even it was just to say the intentions were there but suitable deals could not be made.  All we got were Garde's comments which made a bad situation worse.

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #145 on: February 05, 2016, 07:31:33 AM »
On the subject of the management of the economy, I look out of my front window and see rivers of £20k+ 0% interest cars driving on roads that are disintegrating and it becomes clear to my simple non economist mind that the printing of money has sown the seeds of an even bigger financial crisis than the last one. When consumer spending should be being restrained, zero interest rates are stoking it and when infrastructure public investment should be being prioritised it is being neglected.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #146 on: February 05, 2016, 08:33:54 AM »
Hopefully will have a new owner soon who will probably bring their own board.   So a pointless appointment.   Nothing surprises me with this shower.   Or maybe he can score goals.  Garbage.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #147 on: February 05, 2016, 08:44:46 AM »
Maybe, just maybe, something happened to delay the appointment but whatever the reason I still fail to see how appointing a non-executive director to the board of any company can be good, bad or indifferent timing.
Oh, I dunno. I reckon the timing is perfection.

The club's nailed to the bottom of the league, we've not signed anyone in the mid-season transfer window, but hey, the board can at least placate the customers supporters by taking on a new, high-profile member who is known for being a Villa fan (not like that Cameron bloke, or Prince Bill).

And if they thought that'd placate people then they're as out of touch as they can be.

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #148 on: February 05, 2016, 08:58:23 AM »
Maybe, just maybe, something happened to delay the appointment but whatever the reason I still fail to see how appointing a non-executive director to the board of any company can be good, bad or indifferent timing.
Oh, I dunno. I reckon the timing is perfection.

The club's nailed to the bottom of the league, we've not signed anyone in the mid-season transfer window, but hey, the board can at least placate the customers supporters by taking on a new, high-profile member who is known for being a Villa fan (not like that Cameron bloke, or Prince Bill).

And if they thought that'd placate people then they're as out of touch as they can be.

Did anyone say it was placating anyone? They do something that should have happened three years ago - nothing more.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Mervyn King joins the Board
« Reply #149 on: February 05, 2016, 09:20:02 AM »
Maybe, just maybe, something happened to delay the appointment but whatever the reason I still fail to see how appointing a non-executive director to the board of any company can be good, bad or indifferent timing.
Oh, I dunno. I reckon the timing is perfection.

The club's nailed to the bottom of the league, we've not signed anyone in the mid-season transfer window, but hey, the board can at least placate the customers supporters by taking on a new, high-profile member who is known for being a Villa fan (not like that Cameron bloke, or Prince Bill).

And if they thought that'd placate people then they're as out of touch as they can be.

Did anyone say it was placating anyone? They do something that should have happened three years ago - nothing more.
Yeah, just me as far as I can see although I've not had time to look around.

 


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