West Ham vs Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Just realised that Saturday could be the start of the official countdown to our relegation. If we lose and Leicester win we can't finish above them. Then it will be a case of keep ticking off more and more teams as the games pass.

[adrenachrome]

Probably the final nail in the coffin and how fitting that it was hammered in by one of our own. 

One does wonder, with the sheer scale of ineptitude displayed by Lerner and his lickspittles, just how low he can take us.   

We can be sure that these boyos have some heavy duty drilling gear and they have set their sights on the earth's core. 

[b23]

After the sending off you just watch and wait for the defeat, its so utterly shit, I try to hide how I feel with family and friends and especially the Albion/Blues rabble at work who have cranked things up with me recently but its
very hard to keep your guard up, I've been going down the Villa over 50 years so have seen the 67/70/87 relegations but cant remember ever feeling this low.

I've seen what you have seen.

Never, ever let your guard down.

[Pat McMahon]

No manager we have ever had is worse than McNeill - we have had useless managers and we have had managers who didn't give a shit

Not sure who our worst ever manager is but in comparative terms - meaning measuring their ability versus their peers - this is the worst Villa team I have ever seen. It is clear that this team is not as bad as the team which went down in 1970 from a division lower but we are way worse than any other team in the league. Miles worse. And the 1986-7 team were a dream compared to this lot.

Some nasty chanting v Lerner tonight - " we're having a party when Lerner dies" sung under the stand at half time and in the second half. There was a flag near us too being passed overhead but we couldn't read it - presumably not very flattering.

[Des Little]

After the sending off you just watch and wait for the defeat, its so utterly shit, I try to hide how I feel with family and friends and especially the Albion/Blues rabble at work who have cranked things up with me recently but its
very hard to keep your guard up, I've been going down the Villa over 50 years so have seen the 67/70/87 relegations but cant remember ever feeling this low.

I've seen what you have seen.

Never, ever let your guard down.

Or your Garde for that matter, eh Randy?

[curiousorange]

I believe it said 'Sack the Board'.

[TonyD]

We were warned by fans in the US from the outset that RL was the devil.   Makes me cringe to think we entertained the fuckin general on here. 

[django]

Why does remi play bacuna and richardson? What's the point? May as well blood the yoot.
also gabby will now be fucked and effectively strikerless for saturday?

I thought Bacuna had a really good first half. He was pulled out of position more in the second half, unsurprisingly and he's a wimp. But in the first 15 minutes we looked quite decent and he was part of it so guess that's why Garde played him.

Not sure why anyone would play Richardson that one's a mystery.

[Clampy]

No manager we have ever had is worse than McNeill - we have had useless managers and we have had managers who didn't give a shit

Not sure who our worst ever manager is but in comparative terms - meaning measuring their ability versus their peers - this is the worst Villa team I have ever seen. It is clear that this team is not as bad as the team which went down in 1970 from a division lower but we are way worse than any other team in the league. Miles worse. And the 1986-7 team were a dream compared to this lot.

Some nasty chanting v Lerner tonight - " we're having a party when Lerner dies" sung under the stand at half time and in the second half. There was a flag near us too being passed overhead but we couldn't read it - presumably not very flattering.

It's a shame that amongst our fantastic support that there's some that can be so vile.

[devilla]

Shit day at work and a shit nighty watching that. Disgraceful performance by the referee. Ayew. WTF.

On the plus side, the defence did well tonight though. Richards especially.

Just watched Norwich on MOTD. They're awful. That's 5 losses on the bounce for them. We would have had a great chance against them on Saturday but I just can't see us getting anything more than possibly a point now.

Total respect for the 1800 who were there tonight. They deserved far better than a fuckwit referee and an Ayew brain fart.

[David_Nab]

I'll start by saying I didn't rate Tim and wasn't sad to see him go ..however to me the board oversaw the mass recruitment in summer with some input from Tim but mainly based on stats and potential of players ( to add Greg Evans in the mail commentated that Payet from Spam would not have been on our rader as he was too old at 28) .

Tim couldn't mold the players into a team and created a poor atmosphere so was binned.They saw Remi as a good option , he would know the french players and had experience working within a budget. Unfortuantly the poor start with eroded squad confidence, lose of Amavi and fundamentaly just a not good enough squad was too much for him to turn round.So they took the decision to not spend more money after bad and spin the wheel of getting back promoted.

In this plan they miss that in doing this they have hung Remi out to dry , have left the players in no doubt the board has no confidence in them and lost any remaining good will with the fans.They have sentenced the club to a long 15 games ( 14 after tonight of slow death in the public glare)  and left Remi to front up to the media to explain the clubs decision to give up.

The team until Ayews moment of madness where on top , I think Gabbys movement was looking effective with Ayew and we had some nice passing but it all went out the window with the red card.The rest of the game was a 73 min preview of the rest of the season the team struggling against and inevetiable result ,trying hard but lacking the quality.

[adrenachrome]

I'll start by saying I didn't rate Tim and wasn't sad to see him go ..however to me the board oversaw the mass recruitment in summer with some input from Tim but mainly based on stats and potential of players ( to add Greg Evans in the mail commentated that Payet from Spam would not have been on our rader as he was too old at 28) .

Tim couldn't mold the players into a team and created a poor atmosphere so was binned.They saw Remi as a good option , he would know the french players and had experience working within a budget. Unfortuantly the poor start with eroded squad confidence, lose of Amavi and fundamentaly just a not good enough squad was too much for him to turn round.So they took the decision to not spend more money after bad and spin the wheel of getting back promoted.

In this plan they miss that in doing this they have hung Remi out to dry , have left the players in no doubt the board has no confidence in them and lost any remaining good will with the fans.They have sentenced the club to a long 15 games ( 14 after tonight of slow death in the public glare)  and left Remi to front up to the media to explain the clubs decision to give up.

The team until Ayews moment of madness where on top , I think Gabbys movement was looking effective with Ayew and we had some nice passing but it all went out the window with the red card.The rest of the game was a 73 min preview of the rest of the season the team struggling against and inevetiable result ,trying hard but lacking the quality.

Excellent analysis, in my opinion.

[mallo]

I've seen in the short time remi has done a better footballing job than anyone since houillier and he doesn't fawn to anyone - in truth I feel sorry for him as he does all the
Right things and unless he has a massive beleif in next year I don't blame him for sodding off. I know we get fed rubbish but surely 'expect nothing' would have been better for remi - anyway what does it matter - we are down and without him I fear warnock or some other tosser which means we are gone for 15 years. For the younger of us - this can be f&&ced up very easy and you could be wondering how this could happen - I advise as much protest as you can muster - protests in division 2 don't get headlines.

[Steve R]

A game that just about sums us up. Well in control, much the better team only question was whether we could find a goal from an overweight striker who hasn't scored for 11 months and was only in the team because two other non-scoring strikers were unfit.

Bad refereeing and a rush of blood and the whole game changed. If we have to defend we didn't really want Gil doing any of it, but there's no choice because two other injuries mean we already have a makeshift central midfielder in the side.

Eventually Gil was taken off, and a total waste of space in Richardson replaced him. Sinclair, barely of PL standard nowadays himself, was being held back, presumably for the moment the excess lard totally caught up with Agbonlahor.

I'd like a video of this game to be shoved so far up Hollis' arse that he'll need a dentist to find it.

Take a look at West Ham, no great shakes, a couple of good players and several journeymen but no passengers and riding high in the league. Here's what we could have won, Fox.

Unfortunately the first departure is likely to be the only person who actually seems to know what he's doing.

[Ian.]

I'll start by saying I didn't rate Tim and wasn't sad to see him go ..however to me the board oversaw the mass recruitment in summer with some input from Tim but mainly based on stats and potential of players ( to add Greg Evans in the mail commentated that Payet from Spam would not have been on our rader as he was too old at 28) .

Tim couldn't mold the players into a team and created a poor atmosphere so was binned.They saw Remi as a good option , he would know the french players and had experience working within a budget. Unfortuantly the poor start with eroded squad confidence, lose of Amavi and fundamentaly just a not good enough squad was too much for him to turn round.So they took the decision to not spend more money after bad and spin the wheel of getting back promoted.

In this plan they miss that in doing this they have hung Remi out to dry , have left the players in no doubt the board has no confidence in them and lost any remaining good will with the fans.They have sentenced the club to a long 15 games ( 14 after tonight of slow death in the public glare)  and left Remi to front up to the media to explain the clubs decision to give up.

The team until Ayews moment of madness where on top , I think Gabbys movement was looking effective with Ayew and we had some nice passing but it all went out the window with the red card.The rest of the game was a 73 min preview of the rest of the season the team struggling against and inevetiable result ,trying hard but lacking the quality.

I'll start by saying I didn't rate Tim and wasn't sad to see him go ..however to me the board oversaw the mass recruitment in summer with some input from Tim but mainly based on stats and potential of players ( to add Greg Evans in the mail commentated that Payet from Spam would not have been on our rader as he was too old at 28) .

Tim couldn't mold the players into a team and created a poor atmosphere so was binned.They saw Remi as a good option , he would know the french players and had experience working within a budget. Unfortuantly the poor start with eroded squad confidence, lose of Amavi and fundamentaly just a not good enough squad was too much for him to turn round.So they took the decision to not spend more money after bad and spin the wheel of getting back promoted.

In this plan they miss that in doing this they have hung Remi out to dry , have left the players in no doubt the board has no confidence in them and lost any remaining good will with the fans.They have sentenced the club to a long 15 games ( 14 after tonight of slow death in the public glare)  and left Remi to front up to the media to explain the clubs decision to give up.

The team until Ayews moment of madness where on top , I think Gabbys movement was looking effective with Ayew and we had some nice passing but it all went out the window with the red card.The rest of the game was a 73 min preview of the rest of the season the team struggling against and inevetiable result ,trying hard but lacking the quality.

Excellent analysis, in my opinion.

Yes, very well put.