Fan reaction to impending Relegation.

[glasses]

Crikey was at the west ham game too, shows how my memory is getting. He was poor in the Sunderland game. I stand by the fire fighting thing though. He is a great athlete, and is one of very few players who can play at this level in our squad. I think he's going through the motions a bit now. I think he's our best player, but he's thrown the towel in

Easy to forget any positives mate! I was counting off the missed chances to a mate at that game - it could have been 6-2 to us if they could actually get a ball in the net - Gestede had 3 gilt-edged chances (2 with his deadly head) if I remember  - there was also the Westwood "blaze over the bar" which he did again today

Ain't that the truth! I wouldn't say they were hugely better in the newcastle game, in fact they had some really good chances which they blew and we scraped a draw despite having a spell in the second half for about 20 mins. The West Ham game  we played well in patches, but I'd never say we looked composed at the back.

[olaftab]

we will be back.

I remember another club saying that

Oh dear I was hoping we wouldn't hear those words here.

[adrenachrome]

It's twats like that, that will start all the argy bargy around the Holte End on Tuesday.

Do you honestly think any argy bargy will happen, regardless of the result on Tuesday?

I don't, cos we've been too apathetic for the last 5 feckin years.

Yes. The argy bargy,  though,  usually means Villa fans fighting among themselves.

A particular flash point,  for reasons I have never been able to fathom, is under the flyover at Aston Hall Road after the game.  Quite often a ruck there followed by the VTID chant. 

One theory is that these fellows have been arguing for a while and then their voices get louder with the echo and they get carried away.

[stuart445]

As least it was not a far a journey as last week....

Frustrating and poor again especially the second half but some of the fans behaviour was not great either. Some booing the players off the bus before the game, booing them at throw-ins etc, the behaviour as they got on the bus, I was ashamed of some of them, drink had been taken but all the press where waiting and baiting for it after the game and of course some play into it. By all means don't clap them on after that display or maybe boo if it takes your fancy but the intimidation and language was appalling .....
I hope Garde sticks it out, the lack of quality is not his fault, everything is negative at the minute he needs to have the time to turn it around.
I think he seems a good guy who will get it right. The players are mentally shot and look petrified to make any mistake or take any risk.

The worry for me now is the lack of leadership above Remi, he again like managers in the past is being lynched and all the pressure is on him. It needs the directors to step in to take the flack and give him some breathing space.

Nah he's gone for me, Any Manager that keeps playing Gestede deserves the sack and should never get a managers job at any other club.  It's as clear as day the players aren't passing to him as they like us have realised he is rubbish but yet he plays him and today when it's obvious Gestede needs to be taken off he takes off Gil who is the only player that we have that can create something.  Gestede is by far and away the worst Footballer I have ever seen. 

[peter w]

As least it was not a far a journey as last week....

Frustrating and poor again especially the second half but some of the fans behaviour was not great either. Some booing the players off the bus before the game, booing them at throw-ins etc, the behaviour as they got on the bus, I was ashamed of some of them, drink had been taken but all the press where waiting and baiting for it after the game and of course some play into it. By all means don't clap them on after that display or maybe boo if it takes your fancy but the intimidation and language was appalling .....
I hope Garde sticks it out, the lack of quality is not his fault, everything is negative at the minute he needs to have the time to turn it around.
I think he seems a good guy who will get it right. The players are mentally shot and look petrified to make any mistake or take any risk.

The worry for me now is the lack of leadership above Remi, he again like managers in the past is being lynched and all the pressure is on him. It needs the directors to step in to take the flack and give him some breathing space.

Nah he's gone for me, Any Manager that keeps playing Gestede deserves the sack and should never get a managers job at any other club.  It's as clear as day the players aren't passing to him as they like us have realised he is rubbish but yet he plays him and today when it's obvious Gestede needs to be taken off he takes off Gil who is the only player that we have that can create something.  Gestede is by far and away the worst Footballer I have ever seen. 

Who in place of Gestede though? Kozak? Who's had 10 minutes or so of first-team football in 2 years or so? I think Kozak probably would have come on today to help with his rehabilitation but Richards' injury changed the final substitution. Plus, it maybe that he's going to be on the bench for Tuesday and today was to try and give him more confidence.

[stuart445]

I predicted this many months ago to my villa colleagues at work,that it will turn ugly, remember the night when Mcleish got Horrendous abuse, and after six years of patience I am pretty sure based on what we have witnessed on the video  there will be more to come for the present incompetents who are brave enough to turn up for the next home games sitting in there privileged seats. We have seen a video of a nasty verbal protest by one fan, he was taking his anger and frustration out on certain players and manager, to a degree I don't blame the players, most players in the lower leagues would sign for us to better themselves financially, if we had appointed a dedicated Tony barton type, to spot good quality players, i.e. Dennis Mortimer, Des bremmer, Peter withe, Tony morleys, etc, not the westwoods,Tonevs, Gestedes etc etc etc etc etc , then a manager to harness the players to compliment each other, instead of haphazard weak non effecting football that we are witnessing, I could go on, but ultimately the buck stops with the non attending owner, when he finally sells us and he has disappears over the horizon clutching his cheque, and probably never dare showing his face around villa park ever again, even in his very expensive rebuilt holte pub which only those who are presumably in the Masons are allowed in, leaving an almighty mess, the fan in the video will be a reminder of what the club is about, PASSION for the club he loves and all of us on here LOVE. up the VILLA, we will be back.

Holte Pub is for Season Ticket Holders Only.  But trust me you aren't missing much the service is as slower than Gestede and Lescott

[stuart445]

As least it was not a far a journey as last week....

Frustrating and poor again especially the second half but some of the fans behaviour was not great either. Some booing the players off the bus before the game, booing them at throw-ins etc, the behaviour as they got on the bus, I was ashamed of some of them, drink had been taken but all the press where waiting and baiting for it after the game and of course some play into it. By all means don't clap them on after that display or maybe boo if it takes your fancy but the intimidation and language was appalling .....
I hope Garde sticks it out, the lack of quality is not his fault, everything is negative at the minute he needs to have the time to turn it around.
I think he seems a good guy who will get it right. The players are mentally shot and look petrified to make any mistake or take any risk.

The worry for me now is the lack of leadership above Remi, he again like managers in the past is being lynched and all the pressure is on him. It needs the directors to step in to take the flack and give him some breathing space.

Nah he's gone for me, Any Manager that keeps playing Gestede deserves the sack and should never get a managers job at any other club.  It's as clear as day the players aren't passing to him as they like us have realised he is rubbish but yet he plays him and today when it's obvious Gestede needs to be taken off he takes off Gil who is the only player that we have that can create something.  Gestede is by far and away the worst Footballer I have ever seen. 

Who in place of Gestede though? Kozak? Who's had 10 minutes or so of first-team football in 2 years or so? I think Kozak probably would have come on today to help with his rehabilitation but Richards' injury changed the final substitution. Plus, it maybe that he's going to be on the bench for Tuesday and today was to try and give him more confidence.

Kozak or Ayew as with Gestede we are playing with 10 men.

[peter w]

Kozak has been out and would be unlikely to last the game, plus he'd then not be able to feature against Palace. the game that Ayew was rested for. If we're going to use gestede today rather than tuesday is the game you play him.

[stuart445]

Kozak has been out and would be unlikely to last the game, plus he'd then not be able to feature against Palace. the game that Ayew was rested for. If we're going to use gestede today rather than tuesday is the game you play him.

lmao you really think Garde won't pick Gestede on Tuesday don't you, guess what he will and Kozak will be on the bench at best.

[peter w]

Not sure what he'll do. Ayew will start but we are a small team and need height. I'm not sure kozak is ready but seeing as Gestede played the full game today i wouldn't be surprised to see Kozak start.

[stuart445]

Not sure what he'll do. Ayew will start but we are a small team and need height. I'm not sure kozak is ready but seeing as Gestede played the full game today i wouldn't be surprised to see Kozak start.

Garde thinks Gestede is awesome.  He keeps picking him to start and ignoring Kozak who's been scoring consistently in the Reserves. Garde is Clueless, he was a gamble and like every other gamble the board of ours has made it's failed

[peter w]

Not sure what he'll do. Ayew will start but we are a small team and need height. I'm not sure kozak is ready but seeing as Gestede played the full game today i wouldn't be surprised to see Kozak start.

Garde thinks Gestede is awesome.  He keeps picking him to start and ignoring Kozak who's been scoring consistently in the Reserves. Garde is Clueless, he was a gamble and like every other gamble the board of ours has made it's failed

Kozak hasn't been scoring regularly in the reserves and reports from those who have been going have reported that he has not looked good at all. Also, I'm not sure what other options garde has. Ayew isn't an out and out centre forward so who else is there?

[Dave Cooper please]

I'm pissed off with people taking the piss out of me for being a Villa fan.

I live in Birmingham. We're shit and going down, but there's no team around here than can take the piss out of us. Brummie reds and Brummie scousers are not even on my radar - they have lost their souls.

Take it on the chin, for fucks sake.

This.

We are not the first club to be utterly shite and we won't be the last. Laugh in the face of adversity and remember you are a fan of the famous Aston Villa.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd be tempted to start RHP on Tuesday, sod it, we've got nothing to lose and Kojak is never going to start and Gestede is basic enough as it is without starting him when he's low on confidence.

[stuart445]

Not sure what he'll do. Ayew will start but we are a small team and need height. I'm not sure kozak is ready but seeing as Gestede played the full game today i wouldn't be surprised to see Kozak start.

Garde thinks Gestede is awesome.  He keeps picking him to start and ignoring Kozak who's been scoring consistently in the Reserves. Garde is Clueless, he was a gamble and like every other gamble the board of ours has made it's failed

Kozak hasn't been scoring regularly in the reserves and reports from those who have been going have reported that he has not looked good at all. Also, I'm not sure what other options garde has. Ayew isn't an out and out centre forward so who else is there?

Gestede isn't an out and out Footballer so I'd prefer the none out and out striker Ayew than Gestede any day,  also Kozak may not be scoring regularly in the reserves but he's scoring more regularly then Gestede and I fail to believe anyone can look worse then Gestede.