AGM - Protest

[oswald funkletrumpet]

Charlie Austin was never going to join. Why on earth would a footballer who just spent the past season at the arse end of the season sign up for another round of it? He's on a very healthy contract that probably put a lot of teams off coupled with whatever QPR were asking for him in the summer. With the window winding down along with his contract he had the pick of the sides that showed any interest. He wasn't coming to us and only might of if we were outside the bottom three. And even then I doubt it.

There is no doubt we need a forward. I just don't know we will get one with the required quality right now and one that we haven't paid a fortune for. It's a shit situation to be in.

totally agree

[pauliewalnuts]

I understand their points about getting players in at the moment but, having read the transcript, with the club in the position it is, I would like our leadership to have given it some Churchillian 'fight until the end' spirit.

What we actually got was a bit of moaning about the marketing shambles we are (clearly overlooking the fact that was Lerner's fault) and some stuff about how our new shirt deal is safe if we go down.

There was pretty much zero fight or passion in what they said, they've meekly just accepted it.

And well done whoever it was who told them not to call him a 'customer' too. Thats another distinction they have zero idea about.

[ronshirt]

I've been given a bit of ITK about where some of the £60m went:

To Guzan B - £41.58 Wrigleys chewing gum; £3.88 tape measure (retractable).

To Richards M - £195.01 Bay Rum hair lotion; £39.95 Gentleman's hair brush.

To Senderos P - £164.42 I-Spy books.

To Bacuna L - £3097.65 Anti-Rictus treatment.

To Lescott A - £71.67 Star Trek seasons 1-7.

To Cissokho A - £189.56 Natonal Express.

To N'Zogbia C - £40,897.76 Next: £34,560.34 M+Co.

To Westwood A - £139.72 Complete Famous Five collection.

To Sanchez C  - £4.99 Thriller CD by Michael Jackson.

To Grealish J - £538.787.04 Herbal Highs Birmingham.

To Agbonlahor G -  £126.45 Gingster pasties; £37.23 baby wipes.

To Gestede R - £83.78 sleeping tablets.

To Sherwood T - £2,000,978.99 (deferred payment).

To Lambert P - £34,000,79.87 (deferred payment).

To Bent D - £19,800.978.01 (deferred payment).

To General Krulak - £89,785.86 nursing fees.

To Moore R - £569.84 consultancy fee.

The ITK doesn't know where the rest went he (or she) was only willing to let me know that it didn't go on either organisation or public relations.

[Dave]

And well done whoever it was who told them not to call him a 'customer' too. Thats another distinction they have zero idea about.

I'm not saying that nobody at the club has referred to supporters as 'customers' before (I'd be amazed if Fox has never done that), but nobody did at that meeting.

Hollis said "customers" when talking about his previous business experience. Where he was dealing with customers not supporters.

[Toronto Villa]

And well done whoever it was who told them not to call him a 'customer' too. Thats another distinction they have zero idea about.

I'm not saying that nobody at the club has referred to supporters as 'customers' before (I'd be amazed if Fox has never done that), but nobody did at that meeting.

Hollis said "customers" when talking about his previous business experience. Where he was dealing with customers not supporters.

it's quite a difference when explained in the correct context

[pauliewalnuts]

Point taken in that it wasn't said at the meeting but that's precisely the way they see us. These people just have no idea what it means to be a supporter (see previous "we're bottom of the league but look at our new shirt deal " thing just before Christmas).

We are basically screwed until Lerner sells up to someone who gives a fuck and has a brain.

[Toronto Villa]

I don't disagree but is it really any different to how Levy sees Spurs fans, the board at Arsenal sees Arsenal fans etc etc? If things were going better it wouldn't matter what they saw us as. Put a good product on the pitch and a lot of minor issues disappear. Everything comes to the surface as an additional irritant when as we are bottom of the table miles from land, no paddle in sight, the hull letting in water at an increasing rate.

[aj2k77]

Point taken in that it wasn't said at the meeting but that's precisely the way they see us. These people just have no idea what it means to be a supporter (see previous "we're bottom of the league but look at our new shirt deal " thing just before Christmas).

We are basically screwed until Lerner sells up to someone who gives a fuck and has a brain.

You're right, they have no clue about how a football fan feels about their club. Does anyone believe Lerner watches every Villa game from his secret bunker? Does anyone believe him and Hollis, a man who's only spent a few weeks at the club, were ''jumping around'' living every kick of the Wycombe game like he claims? It's all bull shit, fakely trying to connect with us but comes across completely like a 90 year old great granddad trying to be cool with his great grand children. Another reason I'd like a footballing man aboard, someone who you know feels the defeats with you somewhat.

[b23]

Welcome back DC5.

Thank you, Ronshirt. I just called in to see what people thought of the AVST AGM. I attended the meeting last year and, in comparison, Tom Fox appears just as clueless as he was then. Fox seems to be in total awe of Paddy Riley. I really hope that Steve Hollis sacks both of them.

Why?

Hollis said that the players hadn't been successfully integrated.

Paddy clearly has no successfully-integrated-o-meter option on his Playstation.

Why is he still working at the Club ?

[saunders_heroes]

Welcome back DC5.

Thank you, Ronshirt. I just called in to see what people thought of the AVST AGM. I attended the meeting last year and, in comparison, Tom Fox appears just as clueless as he was then. Fox seems to be in total awe of Paddy Riley. I really hope that Steve Hollis sacks both of them.

Why?

Hollis said that the players hadn't been successfully integrated.

Paddy clearly has no successfully-integrated-o-meter option on his Playstation.

Why is he still working at the Club ?

He said that a few times, though I doubt if anyone actually in the room knew what he was on about. Just what the hell does 'intergrating the players at Bodymoor' actually mean?

[aj2k77]

Welcome back DC5.

Thank you, Ronshirt. I just called in to see what people thought of the AVST AGM. I attended the meeting last year and, in comparison, Tom Fox appears just as clueless as he was then. Fox seems to be in total awe of Paddy Riley. I really hope that Steve Hollis sacks both of them.

Why?

Hollis said that the players hadn't been successfully integrated.

Paddy clearly has no successfully-integrated-o-meter option on his Playstation.

Why is he still working at the Club ?

He said that a few times, though I doubt if anyone actually in the room knew what he was on about. Just what the hell does 'intergrating the players at Bodymoor' actually mean?

In Veretout's case it would probably mean actually being spoken to instead of ignored for months. I wouldn't be surprised if all the French signings got the same treatment.

They were/are young, inexperienced and should have had the fathering treatment and an arm thrown around them, what it appears they got was being ignored and then singled out as the problem.

Look at Kmacs pathetic team selection and comments for further proof of what it must have been like behind the scenes. Not good enough, they are assets.

[four fornicholl]

Welcome back DC5.

Thank you, Ronshirt. I just called in to see what people thought of the AVST AGM. I attended the meeting last year and, in comparison, Tom Fox appears just as clueless as he was then. Fox seems to be in total awe of Paddy Riley. I really hope that Steve Hollis sacks both of them.

Why?

Hollis said that the players hadn't been successfully integrated.

Paddy clearly has no successfully-integrated-o-meter option on his Playstation.

Why is he still working at the Club ?

He said that a few times, though I doubt if anyone actually in the room knew what he was on about. Just what the hell does 'intergrating the players at Bodymoor' actually mean?

In Veretout's case it would probably mean actually being spoken to instead of ignored for months. I wouldn't be surprised if all the French signings got the same treatment.

They were/are young, inexperienced and should have had the fathering treatment and an arm thrown around them, what it appears they got was being ignored and then singled out as the problem.

Look at Kmacs pathetic team selection and comments for further proof of what it must have been like behind the scenes. Not good enough, they are assets.

agree totally , ajk , it was plain to see by anybody with the most basic of football knowledge , very embarrasing

[Sexual Ealing]

The fact that the new players weren't properly 'integrated' in the summer is actually shameful. 17 years after we left Angel and his poorly new-born languishing in a strange country where they didn't speak the lingo, you'd hope that things would've moved on.

If you're shipping in a load of kids from France and Spain who've never been here before, you'd really hope that someone somewhere along the line would have the emotional intelligence to make them feel a bit welcome. At least they could have modified the bantre.

[Dave Clark Five]

Welcome back DC5.

Thank you, Ronshirt. I just called in to see what people thought of the AVST AGM. I attended the meeting last year and, in comparison, Tom Fox appears just as clueless as he was then. Fox seems to be in total awe of Paddy Riley. I really hope that Steve Hollis sacks both of them.

Why?

A) Fox is not competent to be Villa CEO.
B) Riley has not had sufficient experience to be in charge of recruitment of players.

[pauliewalnuts]

I am prepared to accept Reilly is clueless - it wouldn't surprise me - the problem is that, if you look at the players he has brought in, they're actually not bad players. The problem has been that there was seemingly no attempt to integrate them.

That story about Sherwood not speaking to Veretout, for example. A 20 something kid moving to a foreign country, not knowing the language, ffs, the club should have been bending over backwards to help him settle, but instead, we get the manager just not speaking to him

Of all the signings last summer, Ilori and Crespo look like bizarre cheap gambles, and Gestede looks shit, but the rest of them are actually decent players.