AGM - Protest

[VinnieChase84]

He didn't say he was unwilling to spend money but repeatedly that was what people heard because he doesn't communicate well with a football audience. This is mostly why they need a 'football man' on the Board, as a translator! Brian Little or one of our favourite Taylor's wouldn't be switching people off with talk of customers and crimson ribbons for a start, but talking a language that Football supporters get.

What he was talking about is the fact that we are not in a great position to sign players. I have said it already that we only need one other premier club to be in for a player we want right now, and they won't be coming here, because we are not just bottom, we are very close to gone.

Therefore, we can probably only attract players who might not improve us, or players who might improve us but will come on the basis that we are prepared to throw a shitload of money on a stupid contract at them, which would seem to be a mistake we have made quite frequently before.

He clearly said several times that there are several players they are in talks with right now, but it isn't easy because of the position we are in. Basically, they aren't going to sign players who aren't good value, and could create greater problems for us down the line because they were desperation signings.

He started talking with the 'not signing people' bit, the 'not throwing money at it' bit, and by the time he got to the 'we're talking to several players' bit, everyone had already heard that we aren't signing anyone. Quite honestly, he'd have been better off just saying that we're after several players right now, and then, if none of them come off, explain that at the end of the window. No-one wants to hear the excuses at this stage. They are trying to sign people, it isn't easy but they'll do their utmost, is all he needs to say right now, not worry about being called a liar in 10 days time.

For a man that's so well qualified in previous roles this statement is ridiculous. He should know well enough that if you say two contradictory things to people then they will only concentrate on the first part.
Eg, "I'm not lying to you, however we should do......." A people will only hear and concentrate on the "I'm not lying to you part"
Basic basic psyc

As you've said, he should have led with the "we're talking to a few players" however.........

This just shows how basic our leadership is in some areas

[aj2k77]

Did anyone point out to Fox that the Championship is below the Premier League and we don't want to go into it?

They seem to think the Championship is some fabled land that we sort us out financially and we will piss the league and stroll back in to the Premier bigger and better than ever. Unfortunately with fuck wit Fox and his ilk involved I find this extremely unlikely.

[cheltenhamlion]

No they don't.  And that wasn't the gist of how the Q+A went at all.

[Dave Clark Five]

it has become clear, this evening, that we have a Board that will soon be at odds with each other. Hollis will make decisions, based on his reckoning that Fox is clueless. Fox will run to Lerner and undermine Hollis. I really hope it isn't so but Fox does not seem to be the sort of bloke to be told to stick to what he understands.

[saunders_heroes]

I thought this AGM would give a bit of hope to fans but Christ I walked out of there feeling even worse.

[SoccerHQ]

Were Fox and Hollis sat together?

[cheltenhamlion]

Yes, on the top table with the Trust Chairman.

[Dave Clark Five]

I thought this AGM would give a bit of hope to fans but Christ I walked out of there feeling even worse.

You didn't think that at all surely. What did you expect them to say? The only unknown was Mr. Hollis and he has to be given a chance. Without the board structure of old, we were not able to give a vote of no confidence in the board.

[saunders_heroes]

I thought this AGM would give a bit of hope to fans but Christ I walked out of there feeling even worse.

You didn't think that at all surely. What did you expect them to say? The only unknown was Mr. Hollis and he has to be given a chance. Without the board structure of old, we were not able to give a vote of no confidence in the board.

I'd have hoped for a bit of fighting talk from the board that we were still ambitious and positive about staying up, and perhaps a hint or two that we were to spend our way out of trouble this month.
What we got though was a load of twaddle about keeping our exciting young squad together for next season. It was almost like they're already embracing relegation.

[SoccerHQ]

Established players don't want to join us though, surely it's not defeatist to say that?

[Dave Clark Five]

I thought this AGM would give a bit of hope to fans but Christ I walked out of there feeling even worse.

You didn't think that at all surely. What did you expect them to say? The only unknown was Mr. Hollis and he has to be given a chance. Without the board structure of old, we were not able to give a vote of no confidence in the board.

I'd have hoped for a bit of fighting talk from the board that we were still ambitious and positive about staying up, and perhaps a hint or two that we were to spend our way out of trouble this month.
What we got though was a load of twaddle about keeping our exciting young squad together for next season. It was almost like they're already embracing relegation.

Fox had made it several weeks ago that he expected us to be relegated. I just hope that we start the new season without him on our board.

[tomd2103]

it has become clear, this evening, that we have a Board that will soon be at odds with each other. Hollis will make decisions, based on his reckoning that Fox is clueless. Fox will run to Lerner and undermine Hollis. I really hope it isn't so but Fox does not seem to be the sort of bloke to be told to stick to what he understands.

Didn't go tonight, but it is clear from their views on what went on in the summer that Hollis and Fox might not see eye-to-eye.

[Dave Clark Five]

it has become clear, this evening, that we have a Board that will soon be at odds with each other. Hollis will make decisions, based on his reckoning that Fox is clueless. Fox will run to Lerner and undermine Hollis. I really hope it isn't so but Fox does not seem to be the sort of bloke to be told to stick to what he understands.

Didn't go tonight, but it is clear from their views on what went on in the summer that Hollis and Fox might not see eye-to-eye.

You are bang on. I don't see Hollis as being a bullshitter.

[saunders_heroes]

Established players don't want to join us though, surely it's not defeatist to say that?

I think that's just a cop out. There are decent players out there that might join on short term deals if we offered them the money. That's the problem though (in my opinion), we won't pay the wages for these players. Our wage bill goes down every season so it's no wonder the team is sinking like a stone along with it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Fox to be gone before end of season just my view.  Chairman will want his own man in, tis often the way in 'troubled organisations' where 'governance' is lacking and there is a need to conduct a 'root and branch shake up'.