AGM - Protest

[Malandro]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

[Irish villain]

Although the context in which they were made is not included, some of the comments attributed to Fox speak volumes.  He seems unable and unwilling to admit that he has got things badly wrong and the line about not being willing to spend money is almost an admittance that we are down already.  I think many of us accept that is the case, but I would hope to hear a little more ambition from those running the club.

Indeed. Throwing in the towel is a disgrace as is the failure to accept responsibility for getting us to this point in the first place. How can an ever present premier league club end up rooted to the bottom after 22 games?.

These are some of the worst days in villa's history. It is incredibly sad to see what has been going on and is going on. Sometimes I no longer recognise the club...it's a pity fans are so divided and get into fights with each other given the magnitude of incompetence at Villa Park.

[SheffieldVillain]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

And also, if he's not allowed to comment on anything to do with football, there seems little point in him going to the Trust AGM. For which he would have also got slated had he stayed away.

[Malandro]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

[The Left Side]

Did anyone point out to Fox that the Championship is below the Premier League and we don't want to go into it?

[SheffieldVillain]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

At this moment, are clubs rolling the dice and paying big money for average players?

[olaftab]

No he is not wrong however he has failed in his primary task so people are right to question his opinion.

[Malandro]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

At this moment, are clubs rolling the dice and paying big money for average players?

I think we were the ones rolling the dice in the summer. Big money - if they stay up, its small money.
Newcastle probably will stay up.

[SheffieldVillain]

No he is not wrong however he has failed in his primary task so people are right to question his opinion.

Who said they aren't? However, the fact that he has failed in his primary task doesn't mean that every single thing he says is automatically wrong or that he shouldn't be allowed to say it.

[Irish villain]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

At this moment, are clubs rolling the dice and paying big money for average players?

Well maybe if we'd been spending money on the likes of Shelvey over the years instead of bargain basement Westwood, El Ahmadi, Sylla, Tonev, Richardson, Joe Cole we wouldn't have had half a decade of fighting relegation and it finally biting us in the ass to such an extent that we find ourselves so far adrift that it is too risky to spend. This has been coming for years because we have shown no ambition and haven't heeded the warnings.

[olaftab]

No he is not wrong however he has failed in his primary task so people are right to question his opinion.

Who said they aren't? However, the fact that he has failed in his primary task doesn't mean that every single thing he says is automatically wrong or that he shouldn't be allowed to say it.

Ok that's fair enough.

[SheffieldVillain]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

At this moment, are clubs rolling the dice and paying big money for average players?

I think we were the ones rolling the dice in the summer. Big money - if they stay up, its small money.
Newcastle probably will stay up.

I can't be bothered.

Whatever he had said, you'd have slagged him off for it. If he had said nothing, you'd have slagged him off for it too. If he hadn't gone to the AGM, guess what, he'd have got slagged off for that too.

[amfy]

He didn't say he was unwilling to spend money but repeatedly that was what people heard because he doesn't communicate well with a football audience. This is mostly why they need a 'football man' on the Board, as a translator! Brian Little or one of our favourite Taylor's wouldn't be switching people off with talk of customers and crimson ribbons for a start, but talking a language that Football supporters get.

What he was talking about is the fact that we are not in a great position to sign players. I have said it already that we only need one other premier club to be in for a player we want right now, and they won't be coming here, because we are not just bottom, we are very close to gone.

Therefore, we can probably only attract players who might not improve us, or players who might improve us but will come on the basis that we are prepared to throw a shitload of money on a stupid contract at them, which would seem to be a mistake we have made quite frequently before.

He clearly said several times that there are several players they are in talks with right now, but it isn't easy because of the position we are in. Basically, they aren't going to sign players who aren't good value, and could create greater problems for us down the line because they were desperation signings.

He started talking with the 'not signing people' bit, the 'not throwing money at it' bit, and by the time he got to the 'we're talking to several players' bit, everyone had already heard that we aren't signing anyone. Quite honestly, he'd have been better off just saying that we're after several players right now, and then, if none of them come off, explain that at the end of the window. No-one wants to hear the excuses at this stage. They are trying to sign people, it isn't easy but they'll do their utmost, is all he needs to say right now, not worry about being called a liar in 10 days time.

[Malandro]

“You see some clubs above us spending crazy money on average talent, they are rolling the dice.”

Fox, football expert.

Is he wrong? 14m for Andros Townsend, 12m for Shelvey, 7m for Grabban.

If I'd been instrumental in taking a club the size of Aston Villa into the Championship, I'd keep my footballing opinions to myself.

I'll ask again. Is he wrong?

If they stay up, probably.

At this moment, are clubs rolling the dice and paying big money for average players?

I think we were the ones rolling the dice in the summer. Big money - if they stay up, its small money.
Newcastle probably will stay up.

I can't be bothered.

Whatever he had said, you'd have slagged him off for it. If he had said nothing, you'd have slagged him off for it too. If he hadn't gone to the AGM, guess what, he'd have got slagged off for that too.

I think that's a little unfair. If he wants to offer his opinion on football matters at other clubs, he will get mocked. I'm not a great fan of Shelvey but he'll improve Newcastle.

[aj2k77]

According to Fox, Garde is happy with the squad he has?

I find that very hard to believe.

Fox talks out of his arse non stop. He's been an abject failure as CEO and should fall on his sword in the summer.